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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:57 PM
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Does anyone here think Herman Cain's candidacy is all just a big joke to him
I was listening to a podcast of Rachel Maddow's show and she was talking about just how big of a joke that Cain sees his campaign. It seems he knows nothing about foreign policies, quotes Pokemon theme songs as 'famous poet' and using video games to create tax plans. Plus I heard he has not established campaign HQ in such big primary states like South Carolina and one other (escapes me right now), there just doesn't seem any seriousness to wanting to actually win the GOP nomination.

If anything I see his campaign is very similar to what Christine O'Donnell did here in Delaware. I don't think O'Donnell ever wanted to actually win that race. How else do you explain her bizarro campaign ads (I am not a witch) and utter lack of any knowledge about the constitution or just what one does as a US Senator.

But O'Donnell just like Cain both will make one huge benefit - they will rake in big bucks from the voters who somehow believe that the willingly stupid could some how hold a major office. Alot of fools are being made by the Herman Cain campaign just like there was made with Christine O'Donnell. And in the end they'll laugh all the way to the bank as they convert that campaign cash into PAC money which then can be used to pay them huge paychecks.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:58 PM
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1. Hey, he's only marginally smarter than the shrub and the shrub thought it was for real.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:01 PM
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4. Reagan wasn't much smarter
But Reagan, like Bush Jr. did what they had to do - have an appeal to bring in the voters then when elected appoint the people who would actually run the country.

I highly doubt that Reagan or Bush Jr. made many decisions about this country but instead it was people like Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld (both who served in both cabinets) who made the decisions.

If something extremely crazy happend and Cain was elected president, I would suspect his entire cabinet would have been hand selected by the Koch Brothers.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:02 PM
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Reagan was lost in some place like OZ. There wasn't a "reality" available.
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PoliticAverse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:59 PM
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2. I think that, like Newt, he was using it as a book-selling tour.
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 01:59 PM by PoliticAverse
I think its success has taken him by surprise and he's just
going with the flow/winging it.

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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:00 PM
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3. why would he do that with his apparent baggage?
i think his ego is so big that he thinks he's winning . . . the polls say so! i really do hope he gets the nomination.

ellen fl
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:08 PM
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7. The only reason he is doing well is because all of the candidates are just wretched
I mean the only decent one of the lot (and the one that could seriously give Obama a run for the money) is Mitt Romney but the Tea Party hates him
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:02 PM
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5. Brainwashed shill for Kochs and special interests. He is delusional.
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TJ Walker Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:07 PM
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6. I'm ready for some stand-up then!
And I will be fully expecting a nice stand-up then in a few
hours when he does his press conference, trying to deny some
undeniable things. By now he probably realizes that there is
no way he could ever be nominated as a Republican candidate
for 2012. 
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:08 PM
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8. In my opinion, Cain is a placeholder, not a serious candidate.
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Grey Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:12 PM
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9. Everyone should watch this......
The Rachel Maddow Show

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908//vp/45171907#45171907

Funniest thing I've seem in months.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:12 PM
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10. Joke? He has a wife and two sons
If my father had pulled a "joke", like this on my mother in a public way knowing full well his past would come out I would have punched daddy in the nose on live TV by now.

Seriously.

Don
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:14 PM
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11. Just because you seem to come from a sane, intelligent family doesn't mean everyone does
He could be raking in serious money from this campaign. When he is out of the race he just needs to form a PAC and he gets to keep that money 'free & clear' and become the new Sarah Palin.

Trust me, the family is probably well aware of the windfall they could gain from this. I just don't think they ever imagined he could be a frontrunner but with the GOP so divided and the selection of GOP candidates so sucky - crazier things have happened.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:20 PM
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12. The joke is on the low information voters that are determined to vote aginst their best interests.
They don't call them cons for nothing. Herm isn't stupid, he knows his audience very well and he can run this long con knowing (1) he gets great exposure for his book (2) he gets a ready source of cash from donations (I'm sure he's handling his campaign funds personally) and (3) he'll get a bigger payout from the RNC the longer he keeps his 'campaign' going. The longer he can keep the Romney campaign from wrapping the nomination up, the more money he's going to be able to extort.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:20 PM
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13. It's just an ad campaign for him - for books, tv show, etc.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:25 PM
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14. He'll probably drop out of the race tonight. That's why he is having a presser at 5 PM EDT.
And then Cain will say it is because he was the "real black man" running for President and the lamestream media attacked him constantly because we are all racists!!!

Either that, or he's going to announce that he has always been a huge Star Trek fan and he had a crush on Lt. Uhura, and wanted to meet her someday and sexually assault her, too.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:30 PM
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15. Maybe he thought running for president would give him a chance to hit on more women.
:shrug:
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tropicanarose Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:35 PM
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16. Of course it is a joke. He is looking to sell his book and to get his TV show on Foxr
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tropicanarose Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:38 PM
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17. Of course it is a joke. He is looking to sell his book and get his own TV show on Fox.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:38 PM
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18. Not a joke, just a money laundering operation
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 02:39 PM by EFerrari
like all these candidacies that barely try to look serious.
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Rainngirl Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:55 PM
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19. I think he's deadly serious.
But I also think he's a delusional, misogynistic, narcissist asshole.
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 03:05 PM
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20. kick and reply
well if it is joke.... no one is laffing.

he is a jerk
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RevStPatrick Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 03:11 PM
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21. Absolutely!
I think that St. Rudy of 9/11 set the modern template.
Running for president can be lucrative for one's speaking, consulting and book selling career.
I've thought from the beginning that Cain was only in it for the money.
The irony is that all of these sexual assault charges will probably do him more good than harm.
He'll never be president, and he knows it!
Even if the rubes don't...
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 03:19 PM
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22. He didn't fucking know China already has nukes. He's an incurious idiot like Palin
anyone who thinks its OK for the president not to know this is...well...I hate to say but my parents like him. :cry:
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 03:22 PM
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23. i don't think he is a serious candidate.
in it for the money and the publicity.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:06 PM
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24. I'm inclined to think he actually is
completely serious about running for President. He just has no clue that being able to run a pizza chain, and being able to head up a large trade association, has absolutely nothing in common with running for office, nor of actually being in that office.

Corporate executives tend to live in a very insulated and insular world, compared with that of politics. They are not subject to close scrutiny by the press, past misbehavior rarely comes back to haunt them. Subordinates subordinate. That is, they don't challenge the executive.

Here's another thing that's important to keep in mind as more women step forward to talk about his boorish behavior in the past (allegations of sexual misconduct is the media-speak here): Many men who behave in this way honestly see nothing wrong with it. They think something like, Nothing ventured, nothing gained, and are genuinely shocked that any woman would take offense. To them it is just joking, no harm intended, and they simply don't get it when they're told it's wrong. It's also true that many women remain silent for a very long time. I've had things happen to me in the past that at the time weren't important enough to tell anyone about, but if the man involved were now running for President, you bet I'd speak up. Especially if others have now spoken up, because now I know that it wasn't just me, it was something he'd been doing to who knows how many women, and the whole world should know what a jerk he is.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:31 PM
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28. I think you're absolutely right about all three of your points
I don't have anything to add :) , just a :thumbsup:
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:55 AM
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30. Thank you.
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dtexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:45 PM
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25. No,not to him -- just to absolutely everyone else.
Except for some Rethugs in Iowa.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 04:47 PM
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26. This is all about getting the Herman Cain namebrand out there...
..so that he can charge more money for speaking fees...just like that other dumb-as-dirt grifter, Sarah Failin'...

Romney will be the nominee...the gop doesn't want to admit it yet...

The very best part of this whole spectacle is the fact that they are ALL violating Raygun's 11 commandment..'thou shall not speak ill of another republican'...Ooooopsie...someone forgot to tell these clowns...
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:28 PM
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27. Good point
I don't think Herb expects to win at all. It's a chance to make money.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:14 PM
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29. I've heard RWers insult blacks for how they speak ...
from "how they (blacks) speak with every word enunciated" (egotistical self-importance) to how they speak in "street" ... both used as attacks on blacks ..

Last I heard on the radio, Cain was using the "enunciated" speaking tones ... but just the other day, he was saying (about the Koch brothers) "I am the brother from another mother" and I heard him use "ain't" ...
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