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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 12:27 PM
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New deficit plan would cut social security, veterans benefits and increase taxes for most families
New Social Security formula would cut benefits, raise taxes
BY STEPHEN OHLEMACHER
ASSOCIATED PRESS
November 8, 2011


Just as 55 million Social Security recipients are about to get their first benefit increase in three years, Congress is looking at reducing future raises by adopting a new measure of inflation that also would increase taxes for most families. Those with low incomes would be hit hardest.

If adopted across the government, the inflation measure would have widespread ramifications. Increases in veterans' benefits and pensions for federal workers and military personnel would be smaller. And over time, fewer people would qualify for Medicaid, Head Start, food stamps, school lunch programs and home heating assistance than under the current measure.

Taxes would go up by $60 billion during the next decade because annual adjustments to the tax brackets would be smaller, resulting in more people jumping into higher tax brackets because their wages rose faster than the new measure. Annual increases in the standard deduction and personal exemptions would become smaller.

The proposal to adopt a new Consumer Price Index was floated by the Obama administration during deficit reduction talks in the summer. Now, it is one of the few options supported by both Democratic and Republican members of a joint super committee in Congress working to reduce government borrowing.

Read the full article at:

http://www.freep.com/article/20111108/NEWS07/111080330/New-Social-Security-formula-would-cut-benefits-raise-taxes


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New formula could cut future benefits, raise taxes
November 7, 2011


Despite fierce opposition from seniors groups, the proposal is gaining momentum in part because it would let policymakers gradually cut benefits and increase taxes in a way that might not be readily apparent to most Americans. Changes at first would be small -- the Social Security increase would be cut by just a few dollars in the first year.

In all, adopting the chained CPI would reduce Social Security benefits by $112 billion over the next decade. Federal civilian and military pensions would be $24 billion lower, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

The tax increases would hit low-income families the hardest, while high-income taxpayers would see smaller changes. The wealthiest taxpayers already pay taxes at the highest marginal rate, currently 35 percent.

For example, by 2021, taxpayers making between $10,000 and $20,000 would see a 14.5 percent increase in their federal taxes with a chained CPI, according to an analysis by the Joint Committee on Taxation. Taxpayers making more than $1 million would get a tax increase of 0.1 percent.

Read the full article at:

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9QS35RG0.htm
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 12:31 PM
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1. We are being 'Greeked'...

and we should respond like the Greeks.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 12:33 PM
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2. Stepping stones.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 12:35 PM
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3. "supported by both Democratic and Republican members"
:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 12:35 PM
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4. This is what's called "incremental change" we can believe in .... toward destroying social programs.
Edited on Tue Nov-08-11 12:36 PM by Better Believe It
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dtexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 12:39 PM
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5. Any idiots floating such garbage should be voted out of office.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 12:42 PM
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6. Obama floated this and them Dems are right behind him
they have "his" back so to speak. Any Democrats who support this are unworthy of a vote.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 12:43 PM
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7. Well, they told us it would never be "slashing," so I guess we should just shut up and whatever.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 12:49 PM
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8. Anyone behind this deserves a number for the line for the wall
This is a back door assault on the most venerable Americans and must not stand.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:13 PM
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9. We need an alternative to Obama, and we need to run
progressives against all conservative candidates for the House and Senate.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:20 PM
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11. Smoove Johnny 2012!
:rofl:
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:30 PM
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12. Yes we do. Unfortunately it's not going to happen
Obama is running and no one is going against him. :( And that's a shame.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 05:56 PM
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13. I actually don't favor a primary campaign. I think it would be a distraction from building ....
independent mass movements with an active base among millions of ordinary working class folks.

I agree with "The Progressive" magazine view on this.



Why a Primary Challenge to Obama Is a Bad Idea
By Matthew Rothschild
Editor of The Progressive
December 9, 2010

I’m as unhappy with Obama as the next progressive, but I don’t think it’d be a good idea to mount a primary challenge to him, and here’s why.

First of all, it would be extremely divisive within the Democratic Party, and it would drive a wedge between the largely white left and the overwhelming majority of African Americans at the grassroots, who constitute the party’s most loyal constituency. The last thing we need is to incite racial animosity on the left.

Secondly, there’s no obvious, credible challenger to Obama, and even if there were, any candidate would be likely to lose, so what’s the point?

Thirdly, the divisiveness would only serve to help the Republicans and their rightist forces gain even more power, as the Ted Kennedy challenge to Jimmy Carter illustrated back in 1980.

But most importantly of all, the boomlet for challenging Obama reiterates the fallacy that Presidential politics is the crucial arena for political activism. We, on the progressive side, have been investing way too much time and energy here.

Please read the full article at:

http://www.progressive.org/wx120910.html
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 07:13 PM
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14. Thank you for that article BBI.
It probably wouldn't be a good idea to primary him, I understand that. But another 4 years of him helping the republicans at the expense of the poor and elderly is not something I can stand. We need someone to take charge and fix this hell we are in, instead we have Mr. Bipartisanship. who would just as soon water everything down to suit the pukes and the banks. Giving them what they want will never fix the problem. I would really rather he just come out and say he will not run. I'm sorry but that's how I feel.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 11:28 PM
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16. Nothing to apologize for. I understand your frustration. We need to build mass movements.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 07:21 PM
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15. we need a new congress, for sure
I think Obama would do fine as president, given a sane legislative branch.

Unfortunately, things are likely to get worse for us next year, thanks to gerrymandering and anti-voting laws from GOP-dominated legislatures in several formerly-Democratic states, and the thin margin of seats needed for the GOP to retake the senate.

In retrospect, our best shot was 2009-2010, and we lost it all a year ago.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 02:16 PM
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10. knr nt
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 11:58 AM
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17. Seems like fair and balanced shared sacrifice to me: the pols are not only ignoring what the OWS
movement is all about, they are giving all that OWS stands for a big up-in-your face fuck-you middle finger. :patriot:
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 12:00 PM
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18. Rec n/t
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 01:13 PM
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19. K&R. We are ruled by the Corporate Party now.
It has a Republican wing and a Democratic wing, but make no mistake about it, it is one party.
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