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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:26 PM
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Tests Show Most Store Honey Isn't Honey
Tests Show Most Store Honey Isn't Honey
Ultra-filtering Removes Pollen, Hides Honey Origins

More than three-fourths of the honey sold in U.S. grocery stores isn't exactly what the bees produce, according to testing done exclusively for Food Safety News.

The results show that the pollen frequently has been filtered out of products labeled "honey."
The removal of these microscopic particles from deep within a flower would make the nectar flunk the quality standards set by most of the world's food safety agencies.

The food safety divisions of the World Health Organization, the European Commission and dozens of others also have ruled that without pollen there is no way to determine whether the honey came from legitimate and safe sources.

In the U.S., the Food and Drug Administration says that any product that's been ultra-filtered and no longer contains pollen isn't honey. However, the FDA isn't checking honey sold here to see if it contains pollen.

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/11/tests-show-most-store-honey-isnt-honey/
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:32 PM
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1. Adulterated 'honey', another fine product from China
FDA seizes Chinese honey tainted with dangerous animal antibiotic



The U.S. Food and Drug Administration and federal marshals have seized 64 drums of honey imported from China tainted with a potent and potentially lethal antibiotic.

The FDA says it tested a honey sample and found it contained chloramphenicol, an antibiotic approved only for use in humans with serious infections when other "less toxic" drugs won't work. People who are sensitive to the drug can develop a bone marrow condition which could be fatal. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services also found the drug causes cancer.

The honey, seized at a Philadelphia distribution center June 4, was imported by Sweet Works Inc. of Monterey Park, Calif. from Cheng Du Wai Yuan Bee Products Co. Ltd. of Chengdu, China. It was sold to sold to Alfred L. Wolff Inc. of Chicago, which put it in storage.

Sweet Works couldn't be located for comment. Alfred L. Wolff Inc. didn't respond immediately to an email and its website and phone numbers were offline today.



See full article from DailyFinance: http://srph.it/payFtB




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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 03:02 PM
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20. But poisonous food from China is good for you didn't you know?
According to Erin Burnett:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t67Goh__MI


How do some people get to a point where $$$ are more important than people's lives?
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:34 PM
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2. word of the day: Melissopalynology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissopalynology

Melissopalynology is the study of pollen contained in honey and, in particular, the pollen's source. By studying the pollen in a sample of honey, it is possible to gain evidence of the geographical location and genus of the plants that the honey bees visited, although honey may also contain airborne pollens from anemophilous plants, spores, and dust due to attraction by the electrostatic charge of bees.

(...)

:bounce:
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:39 PM
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5. Would be fun to ask Cain is he is for/against more funding for Melissopalynology
:evilgrin:
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:53 PM
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10. "I never touched anyone named Melissa!"
"I might have said she had a fine rack, but no touching was involved. Next question!"
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 02:01 PM
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13. "I think her cousin Sarah can fund her herself"
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:34 PM
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3. Well, if it ain't honey, then what is it?
:shrug:
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:45 PM
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8. could be made from sugar.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 02:32 PM
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18. More likely corn sugar or high-fructose corn sugar with artificial maple flavoring

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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 02:53 PM
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19. That is ersatz "maple syrup" you are talking about. Not the same thing.
Though I suppose you could do a similar thing with honey flavored syrup but I doubt you would fool many people - and you for sure could not legally call it honey.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:37 PM
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4. Raw honey is more expensive, but it's definitely honey with pollen and organic compounds
in it.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:40 PM
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6. It is honey if bees made it. If it has been filtered, maybe it should be labeled as
"filtered to remove pollen" but I don't get it that it can no longer be called honey. Filtering it does not negate the fact that bees made it so from a scientific standpoint it is still honey but maybe you can no longer prove the fact. If water has been added the label should say that. At some point of course it becomes not honey but a product which contains honey. As long as it is labeled correctly I have no problem with the procedure per se. People should know what they are getting.
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Edim Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:58 PM
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12. bees make honey from sugar syrup
If you feed them abudantly with sugar, they'll make "honey" out of it and store it just like the honey from the natural nectar.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 02:01 PM
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14. Agree. Don't see what the pollen has to do with it.
Now if it's super heated, 130F or more, then many, if not most, of the enzymes are destroyed. Then, it's pretty much sugar water. Also agree with correct and thorough labeling.

When able, buy locally. That honey may be filtered to remove the big chunks, but it won't be super heated and the pollen will be there.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:42 PM
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7. Buy local.
Support your local honey collectors.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:52 PM
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9. +99
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 02:12 PM
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15. Yep! This is where we get our honey:
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 02:18 PM
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16. farmer's market too.
works better for hay fever + such.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 01:57 PM
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11. bee sugar is the same as corn sugar is the same as regular sugar..
...your body can't tell the difference. :sarcasm:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 02:23 PM
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17. If you want HONEY go to a health food store which should have it in glass jars -- !!
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Still Blue in PDX Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-11 03:29 PM
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21. Winco has busy little bees in the bulk food section.
There's a sign above the box that says, "DON'T OPEN." Pull the lever on the spout and honey comes out.

I don't eat honey because I've read that bees can get squished and lose their wings and legs when the honey is removed from the cone. I don't know if that is just PETA propaganda, but I'm sweet enough anyway.
:rofl:
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