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douglas9 (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 07:43 AM Original message |
Bill would require Pledge of Allegiance in schools |
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newfie11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
1. As a kid I was required to say it in school |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 07:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Required by whom? The state? |
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newfie11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:06 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Don't know |
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Major Nikon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #8 |
33. That's the way it was in Texas |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. And the way it still is in Texas ... nt |
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newfie11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 04:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. yes some of the schools were in TX |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
45. Yep. It was the way I learned my right hand from my left. |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
2. A sure sign of a crumbling empire. Nt |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
24. +1 |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 11:55 AM Response to Reply #2 |
38. +99% |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
3. Show me just one classroom that DOESN'T have a flag and a class that DOESN'T |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:10 AM Response to Reply #3 |
22. We should make them bow towards D.C. on little Freedom Rugs while we're at it. n/t |
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adigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. Best comment today!! Thanks for the guffaw!!! n/t |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
26. Every class in our district, AFAIK, does NOT have a flag or recite the pledge. |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:36 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Just the opposite where I teach in Bergen County (NJ). |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:47 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. OMG: Intercoms and bells, poor students-- poor teachers! |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:51 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Let's say there was a more intimate, local classroom feel to the flag salute |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:57 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I'm so sorry to hear about your friend. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 04:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
51. edit. delete. |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
4. "She cited Jehovah's Witnesses as an example." Quakers don't do oaths, either. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 07:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. It was "an example." Often "an example" is just one from a list. nt |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:37 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. er... no kidding. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 12:11 PM Response to Reply #14 |
40. Really, no kidding. But it is amazing how many people have a need for |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 07:59 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Wiccans either |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:39 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I usually just stood there, but didn't recite or put my hand over my heart. |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
5. I believe that won't stand up in court. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
6. ... |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
7. That'll create lots of jobs. |
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rurallib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:47 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. making flags in China? |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:27 AM Response to Reply #7 |
25. Maybe a few lawsuits. |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
9. I grew up having to say the Pledge of Allegiance. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:06 AM Response to Original message |
13. Schools are having financial problems and they want a requirement that each classroom |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
16. i did back in the god fearing days of the 50`s. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
17. Pennsylvania tried this after 9/11 and it was ruled unconstitutional. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
19. And then there is the inherent contradiction, |
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Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
20. As long as it's THE ORIGINAL PLEDGE with the ORIGINAL HAND POSITION |
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yesphan (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #20 |
36. Interesting hand position there. |
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Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 02:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Yes, that's Margaret Hamilton |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
56. Didn't know that about the hand position |
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Ship of Fools (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
21. MI tax dollars at work ... |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
23. Of all the problems michigan has, they've chosen to work on this?! |
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dembotoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
27. i was in high school during much of viet nam--the school did the pledge at least once a week |
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buddysmellgood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
32. A forced pledge can build resentment. |
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Major Nikon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
34. Get 'em while they're young |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
35. That's called institutionalized brain-washing. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
37. No jobs but hey we're making progress with this bill aren't we. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
39. Dammit, are you people stupid or just intentionally missing the point??? |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
41. Flag worshippers will be the doom of us all. (n/t) |
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SteveG (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
43. West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette (1943) |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
57. State legislatures |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
46. Yawol! |
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Texasgal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
47. Dosen't MI have other real |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Well, they need something to distract themselves from their pro-bullying legislation. (nt) |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
50. And what happens to the kids who refuse? Mine always did. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
52. Tough shit. Constitutionally, you CAN'T 'require' anyone to SAY it. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
53. Involuntary loyalty oaths are the best kind! (nt) |
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SomethingFishy (552 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
55. Sorry we couldn't create any jobs we were busy... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
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JayceR (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-07-11 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
59. Worst Congress Ever |
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