Standard time, thankfully, has returned at last!

[trackfan]

The bullshit is, temporarily, over.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5202931&mesg_id=5208985

[doc03]

1. I would like to see the daylight savings time year round, it gets

dark now at 530pm.

[catabryna]

2. I've been walking my kid to school in the dark...

here in Oregon at 7:30am during rush hour. We need it to be lighter in the morning. Falling back to standard time is good for us here.

[doc03]

3. Start school an hour latter. n/t

[catabryna]

4. The high school and junior high schools start later...

Budgets and all, I guess. There are only so many school buses.

The high school kids get home just when it's getting dark in the winter.

[juajen]

13. See, less bang for your buck.

When I was in high school, all schools started and ended at the same time. This made it much easier on parents. Of course, all buses were owned by the Board of Education, also.

[ejpoeta]

35. where i live there are two bus runs. middle and hs take early bus

(my 7th grader gets on at 6:45am and gets home at 2:50). my 1st grader gets on at 8am and gets off at 3:40. Same bus driver my husband had. works out because when my daughter did pageturners or some other activity, she would get on the early bus and do it before school. when she does things like pageturners now she stays late and comes home on the late bus.

[Warpy]

26. Same here, it gets depressing fast.

With year round DST, the schools could start an hour later, something that would greatly benefit the kids, especially the teenagers. They'd actually be awake when they got there.

The only reason we don't have it is parents whining about their kids going out in dark mornings. With an adjustment in school hours, it wouldn't be that way and it's something that should have been done years ago.

Back in Boston, people who work office hours only see daylight if they go out for lunch, something that gets expensive. Standard time just plain SUCKS.

[RegieRocker]

36. Yes but it gets lighter earlier which i like best.

[we can do it]

43. Me Too, Same Reason. The gloom is depressing

[Morning Dew]

5. Rec.

I'd be in favor of dumping DST.

[scarletwoman]

6. Not soon enough! Used to be, when Daylight time ended earlier, we'd have a good month of lighter

mornings. Better for the kids waiting for the school bus, and better for us rural commuters who have to watch out for kamikaze deer every morning on the way to work. Now DST ends so late it will STILL be dark in the morning, and pitch black again within a week.

In the spring it's the same thing. It finally starts gets light in the morning, and then *bam!* another month of driving in the dark.

It irritates me no end! There's just no sense in it!

[abelenkpe]

7. What? Screw that

Do you know that every year when we plop back to standard time that traffic fatalities increase? More pedestrians and bicyclists are hit when it gets dark early. We should stay on daylight savings all year round

[RC]

10. Actually you have that wrong.

When DST kicks in, the accident rate goes up because everyone has to get up an hour earlier. It takes a week or two for people to reset their internal clock. It doesn't happen going back.

[Swede]

8. And not a minute too soon.

Er,hour.

[burrowowl]

9. In New Mexico

DST doesn't make sense, in the higher latitudes it may.

[RC]

11. Even in the higher latatudes it does no tmakes sense.

I used to get off work at 3:30. With DST, the real time was 2:30 PM. I had to go to bed with the sun still shining

[iris27]

12. I hate Standard Time. Time to break out the lightbox again...n/t

[EFerrari]

23. Same here. I don't have a light box but this may be the year

I buy one. Already I feel like sleeping all day. :(

[Warpy]

27. I bought myself full spectrum craft lighting

It seems to work fairly well to sit right under it when I'm spinning or weaving.

[babydollhead]

37. I use full spectrum light bulbs all over our house.

It works!

[Tumbulu]

14. Just pick one time and stick to it

change what time work starts, if need be- but why change the time?!!!!

Completely ridiculous and dangerous.

[etherealtruth]

31. That's my belief

I don't care which ... just pick one and leave it alone!

[Raine]

32. Totally agree. I think it's arrogant and ridiculous

to fool with the time. x(

[kestrel91316]

15. I never adapted to DST AT ALL this year, for the first time ever.

My sleep cycle has been so messed up, I could never go to bed at a reasonable hour, and then was always sleeping later than I wanted to. NEVER got switched over.

So now the clocks match my circadian rhythm again. Yay.

[Leftist Agitator]

16. The sun comes up when the sun comes up.

Whatever notation we choose to ascribe to that is purely arbitrary.

That said, extending Daylight Saving Time is probably the only thing that Bush ever did that I agree with.

DST: It's not just for farmers and agricultural hands anymore.

[scarletwoman]

19. Farmers and agricultural hands don't have to punch a clock - they already work by the sun.

DST has nothing to do with farmwork, and makes absolutely no difference. Do you think the cows get milked an hour later when DST starts?

DST is for the Moneyed Class, who get more time on the golf course after banking hours.

[Indydem]

20. The moneyed class?

What a load of horseshit.

I have an extra hour to play with my dogs or work on my home after I get done punching a clock.

The moneyed class doesn't punch a clock. Get a dose of reality.

[trackfan]

25. But you don't have an "extra hour".

You have nothing of the sort. You only have called actual mid-day "one o'clock" instead of "noon"; all else is unchanged. You just have a new name (i.e. 1:00) for what, objectively, is still the middle of the day.

[Indydem]

38. You DO have an extra hour.

My employer sets my hours of work.

Therefore, if I get to leave work at 4:00 EST (5:00 EDT) I have AN EXTRA HOUR OF DAYLIGHT.

If I set my own hours, of course it doesn't matter, but for those of us who are employed by others in a rigid time structure, we do gain an extra hour.

I have no idea why this is so hard to understand.

[scarletwoman]

42. I was trying to think of who DST serves who would have the clout to get Congress to extend it.

I don't for one moment believe it was done for the benefit of hourly wage earners.

And maybe you don't live as far north as I do. I punch a clock, too, which means I also punch an alarm clock every morning. At the height of summer, all DST means is that the sun is still up when it's time for me to go to bed. There's no "extra hour" after work, unless I want to go to work more sleep-deprived than usual.

[Tumbulu]

39. actually it really messes farmers up

especially the dairies as the pick up time for the fluid milk, etc all gets moves and these the cows all have to be milked earlier or later and it causes all sorts of problems.

Just change the work hours- have summer hours and winter hours and be done with it.

[scarletwoman]

40. Good point. Another reason DST is NOT for the benefit of farmers. (nt)

[krispos42]

17. If I was King of America...

...the first thing I would do it get rid of daylight savings time.

Second is I'd put New England on Atlantic Time. Or permanent DST, if that helps you visualize it.

Third, I'd fix the border between Central and Mountain time. Run that line down the western border of North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Texas.

Then I'd fix that little nugget of Mountain that moves into Oregon, and the swatch of Pacific that intrudes into Idaho.

Finally, I'd put the western edge of Eastern time down the Illinois/Indiana border and down the Mississippi.




Having fixed that, I'd also make Michigan's Upper Peninsula part of Wisconsin. That's been bugging me for years. Wisconsin on Central time, Michigan on Eastern time.


Then I'd get started on fixing the government. :D

[Tumbulu]

44. Please make yourself KING!!!!!

We need you to do all this!

Thanks.

[krispos42]

45. Krispos for King! One state, one time zone!

A chicken in every pot! And pot in every chicken! :smoke:

[TheKentuckian]

18. Daylight time or later should be standard.

Standard time sucks Donkey Kong ass.

[RaleighNCDUer]

28. The only time that sucks is time that is wasted.

There is NO difference between daylight savings and standard time. Zero. Any day that starts before 10:00 is a pain in the ass, and all the good shows run until 1:00.

I am NOT Benjamin fucking Franklin and this 'early to bed, early to rise' crap is for the birds.

[SoDesuKa]

21. Spring Back, Fall Ahead

Or is that springbok, full ahead?

[pnwmom]

22. I hate standard time. Pretty soon, it will be dark at 4:30. n/t

[JI7]

24. i hate DST

[Sherman A1]

29. +1

I have become over the years less and less a fan of DST.

[tkmorris]

30. FUCK Standard Time with a rusty drywall saw

Just my opinion of course. Your mileage may vary.

[NutmegYankee]

33. Oh Joy, now I get to go and return from work in the dark!

What is this sun you speak of?

[Raine]

34. Move the clock either a half hour forward or back and then LEAVE IT THAT WAY

FOR GOOD. Continually changing the time bugs the hell out of me! :mad:

[Odin2005]

41. I'm a night owl and DST fucks with my internal clock.

During DST I find it impossible to go to bet earlier than 1AM.

DST can go to hell.

[Jim Lane]

46. It doesn't matter to me, thanks to Skinner.

With the advent of DU and other ways to waste time online, I no longer leave my apartment for any reason.

The Sun can rise at midnight for all I care.