McDonald's McRib Sandwich Made From Tortured Pigs - Investors Misled, Claims Humane Society

[Hissyspit]

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McDonald's McRib Sandwich Made From Tortured Pigs - Investors Misled, Claims Humane Society

Animal rights group files lawsuit against pork-producing giant for lying to investors about being 'animal-friendly'

By Ray Downs | Christian Post Reporter

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The fast food giant gets the pork for its McRib from Virginia-based Smithfield Foods, which according to its website delivers "Good food. Responsibly" and lists "advancing animal care" as one of its core values.

Those claims, however, are being contested by the Humane Society after the animal rights group sent an investigator to work for one month in the factory last year and found evidence of abuse and torture, according to an investigation summary released by the HSUS. The legal complaint accuses Smithfield of "issuing unlawfully false or misleading representations about the animal welfare and environmental practices," that has misled investors.

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In the European Union, as well as seven U.S. states, the use of gestation crates has been outlawed.

In the 2010 HSUS report, the extreme confinement of the gestation crates are "so small the animals could barely move for virtually their entire lives," and the extreme confinement causes them to bite on the bars until their mouths bleed.

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[begin_within]

1. Yet another reason to avoid McDonalds.

[pink-o]

2. And pork in general! n/t

[idiotgardener]

3. As is the vast majority of meat in this country

They do things to those poor animals that would make any decent human vomit if it happened to a dog or cat, but somehow being born a pig means it's OK.

[Major Nikon]

9. Why not just equate them to children?

If you want to make it into a purely emotional argument as Ingrid Newkirk does, why not just substitute boy or girl for dog or cat?

Just sayin'

[idiotgardener]

18. Fine by me.

Pigs feel just as much pain as any other animal when their tails are cut off without anesthesia, when their testicles are ripped off without anesthesia, when they are boiled alive... and they are smarter than some people and dogs.

There is no rational reason they are treated the way they are.

[Major Nikon]

21. There's nothing rational about that argument

Livestock aren't humans any more than they are pets. Trying to equate the two and then argue from that basis is not rational reasoning, it's reasoning based on emotion.

[idiotgardener]

23. I never said they were humans. Either did Ingrid Newkirk.

I said they feel pain and are intelligent creatures.

There is no reason to treat them the way they are treated.

And just because you consider them to be livestock does not mean they are. The animal is the same whether you decide to mistreat it or not. Some people have pigs as pets. Some people eat dogs. The only difference is in people's minds.

[Major Nikon]

25. I'm pretty sure they are livestock

Certainly some people do keep pigs as pets, but I don't think McDonalds is making McRibs out of them. I could be wrong on that, but I don't think so. So yes, there is a difference, and apparently that's where you and I part in terms of this discussion.

The topic of discussion is the treatment of livestock, not the treatment of pets or humans. Most people agree there should be some reasonable standard regarding the treatment of livestock. I certainly do. I don't have a problem with that discussion as certainly it's needed and useful and I think the HSUS is doing great things towards that end.

The problem with Newkirk's ideas (which yours seem to parallel) is that you can simply substitute a pet (or a child) and ask people how would they feel if that were happening to them. That's not a rational basis for argument because it simply evokes an emotional response (as intended). So while it may have some effect on people who are highly swayed by emotional arguments, it turns others off and tunes them out for good. Newkirk does indeed equate humans to animals in most every sense, and her ultimate goal is to convert everyone to veganism. You can't really argue for the "ethical" treatment of livestock when you don't believe livestock should exist in the first place. No standard of treatment is ever going to satisfy her so long as the ultimate end is the dinner plate.

[flvegan]

26. Hate to break it to you

but humans are animals. Matter of fact, you have to go past Kingdom, Phylum and Class to deviate between human and pig (the "livestock"...nice attempt to frame there...at the basis of the discussion). It's simply our decision at what point in the level of classification it's okay to start treating them like shit/eating them. Pretty selfish, which cuts pretty close to your theory of emotional arguments.

[Major Nikon]

27. I'm not sure how you think that is in any way relevant

If condescension is your normal method of discussion, I'll simply group you along with those who can only argue based on emotion.

[flvegan]

29. I'd truly be heartbroken

if you grouped me in such a way. My cup of concern runneth over.

[Major Nikon]

30. Done!

[Journeyman]

4. It's obvious they were tortured -- they were forced to live without bones! . . .

Look at the boneless chicken ranch and tell me the boneless pig farm is any less pathetic. . .

[B2G]

5. Smithfield has the best baby backs going

Dammit, now I'm hungry.

[MADem]

6. It does not matter if the poor pig was tortured or not, that "thing" is INEDIBLE.

I was conned into having one the last time they had the "special event." Being an easygoing type, I went along with the program and said sure, I'd give the thing a try.

Let's put aside the cloying sauce, the "mystery meat" texture--not quite soft, not quite firm--and the odd color of the thing. Let's not even pay attention to massive number of fat grams (it's in the mid-twenties--and the sandwich is not very big) to clog your arteries.

Now, I've eaten crap from every corner of the globe. Icky stuff, stuff that was alive, strange things that I didn't know what it was when I was downing it....and even though some of that stuff made me a bit queasy after the fact, I survived. I have to say that one of the worst--and I mean w-o-r-s-t--stomach aches of my entire life--the horrible GRIPPE, the twisting, ghastly, stabbing agony--happened after I downed that nasty-ass frankensandwich.

It's not fit for human consumption. Horrible thing. I recommend eschewing it for that reason alone!

[ThoughtCriminal]

7. I'm surprised "Pig" is one of the ingredients

:puke:

[RebelOne]

8. Vegetarian here. So I am not guilty of eating "tortured pig" meat. n/t

[veganlush]

10. Boycott cruelty

.. help the environment and get healthier in the process GO VEGAN! It's the SINGLE BIGGEST THING AN INDIVIDUAL CAN DO to help in all these important areas. meat requires torture in today's factory farms. that's why you seldom see inside them. It doesn't have to be this way.

[otohara]

11. Glued Formed Pig

I remember trying one of these when it first was introduced and was grossed out that it was formed to look like ribs.

Yuck - took one bite.

[randome]

12. Where does the protein in nutrition bars come from?

Maybe that would be a faster way to take in protein and have less reliance on meat?

I'm clueless about this so if anyone has knowledge, it would be appreciated.

[formercia]

15. Legumes have a lot of protein

Beans and Rice supply all of the Amino Acids we need, for an example. I wouldn't eat that every day, but there are many combinations that are just as nutritious and tasty. Spices are a key ingredient.

I don't know if I can ever go Vegan, bit I have noticed that, As I cut down my Meat intake, the veggies become more appealing and Meat becomes less attractive. I used to wonder how anyone could live without eating Meat, but now my feelings are beginning to go the other way.

[Donnachaidh]

13. link doesn't work. n/t

[Hissyspit]

17. Here you go:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2057756/Humane-Society-says-main-McDonalds-pork-supplier-abusing-animals-lying-public.html

[Donnachaidh]

31. thank you muchly! n/t

[jberryhill]

14. There's pork in a McRib? That's the shocker here /nt

[undeterred]

16. Eat nothing with a face.

[jberryhill]

20. Does that include this?

[undeterred]

22. Definitely.

You could sell that for a whole lot if you don't eat it.

[arikara]

19. The link isn't working

n/t

[Hissyspit]

24. See Post #17.

Some disturbing photos, though.

[bengalherder]

28. People still eat that shit?

One post MickeyD adventure in the bathroom should cure any sane person of assaying that exercise in gustatory masochism again.