Cain's a Rare Bird - A Republican Who's NOT Odious

[SoDesuKa]

Most Republicans locate themselves on various degrees of the odium scale, ranging from the slightly odious Michael Bloomberg to the extremely odious Sean Hannity. Most Republican leaders are at the Hannity end of the scale, and only a few at the Bloomberg end. Herman Cain, despite his somewhat unfortunate positions, actually wins the Rachel Maddow seal of approval as a guy who seems hip enough to be putting us on. Cain tells jokes, he breaks into song, and he gets caught in clumsy lies. This is a Republican I might actually like, if such a thing were possible.

Please don't beat me up for this. I would never vote for the guy. But he's such a change from the run-of-the-mill Republican that I have to applaud. Where'd he come from? Are there others like him? I loved the Yellow Flowers ad; I thought it was actually hip. Imagine that in a Republican. What's the party of Richard Nixon coming to?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSlC7BxmSqY



The Yellow Flowers Ad - a wonderful spoof

[deafskeptic]

1. uh?

WTF are you smoking?

[Raine]

2. Guess that's a matter of personal opinion

I personally find him odius, obnoxious and repulsive. :puke: x(

[rurallib]

21. quite odious indeed. About 999 on the odious scale

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[SoDesuKa]

4. Granny Goose Potato Chips

Here's a commercial that hasn't aged well. When it was new back in the 60's, it put the Oakland-based snack food maker on the map.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlyzY139Wfg

[themadstork]

5. Bloomberg is only slightly odious?

[SoDesuKa]

12. Bloomberg Moved Up Perceptibly

Bloomberg moved up a couple of notches on the odium scale in the past month. Before that, the needle moved but not a lot. Now of course there's no doubt about his creepiness. However, he's still some distance away from the first class assholes who are clustered in abundance at the Hannity end of the scale, the ones it's painful even to look at. There are so many! Ann Coulter, Jim DeMint, Chris Wallace, the loathsome Arnold Schwarzeneggar, John Boehner, Eric Cantor . . . what a team.

[MilesColtrane]

6. You don't find sexual harassment odious?

How about lying about sexual harassment allegations?

[court jester]

7. Paula Jones did

"...Paula Corbin Jones ... is a former Arkansas state employee who sued U.S. President Bill Clinton for sexual harassment. The lawsuit was dismissed before trial on the grounds that Jones failed to demonstrate any damages. However, while the dismissal was being appealed, Clinton entered into an out-of-court settlement, agreeing to pay Jones and her attorneys a total of $850,000..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Jones

this is an area that (D)emocrats might not want to wander into...

Herman Cain is despicable for lots of other reasons

[MilesColtrane]

8. "this is an area that (D)emocrats might not want to wander into..."

Thanks for your sincere concern, Chief.

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[court jester]

13. John Edwards Thanks You

only Republicans act like scumbags

[MilesColtrane]

17. Wow, you really laid waste to that assertion I didn't make!

Your work here is done.

Somewhere there is someone else on the internet that needs your rapier keen wit.

[Tunkamerica]

10. Clinton's running for president again? Man. I'm out of touch.

[Douglas Carpenter]

11. the Paula Jones accusation had absolutely not credibility - but to be fair we don't know what the

accusations against Herman Cain are. So as completely uninformed, unqualified and extreme as Herman Cain is - we don't know one single detail about the accusations - so I have to agree that it would be irrational and unfair to pass judgment in the absence of even knowing what what he was accused of.

In regards to Paula Jones - even the Arkansas State Troopers who did verify that they knew that Bill Clinton had been seeing other women - consensually - have stated clearly that Paula Jones had actually approached them both before and after meeting Bill Clinton to ask them to deliver messages to then Governor Clinton that she is available if he would like a girlfriend. Multiple sources verify that she was very proud to know then Governor Clinton and bragged that there might be something special between her and him. According to numerous witnesses her claims of victimization only surfaced when offered fame and fortune from right-wing activist seeking to end the Clinton presidency.

However, most of us were prepared to stop and listen to the facts when it concerned President Clinton before making any judgments. And as we all know, he was not terribly forthcoming. But then again I cannot say that I blame him. But on the principle that what is good for the goose is good for the gander - it is not fair to draw any conclusions regarding Herman Cain's alleged improprieties when we don't even know what he was accused of. What we can draw conclusions on is that he didn't know that China has had nuclear weapons for almost 50 years and he doesn't know anything about almost any other issue that is important for the country. That would is a fair and rational judgment.

[court jester]

14. so why did Mr. Nafta deposit $850,000 into her bank account?

[Douglas Carpenter]

16. they wanted it off the books

I have plenty of complaints about Bill Clinton. In some ways he was more reactionary than Ronald Reagan at least in terms of policies that he actually implemented. But the Paula Jones case just didn't hold water. His presidency was besieged from day one by a campaign of vilification led by people who can be described as extremist kooks. By the time they made the payment - they were simply sick of the whole thing and paid the money to make it go away. If I was in his position I probably would have done the same thing.

[GoCubsGo]

19. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

All I'm hearing from the right is that Cain's behavior is "no big deal". This from the very people who hounded AND IMPEACHED Bill Clinton for the same thing. You're goddamn right we're going to "wander into" this. Bunch of fucking hypocrites.

[sendero]

15. The 999 policy....

.... is no joke and its among the most regressive possible tax policies. At a time when we need to be helping the poor and middle classes, Cain wants to twist the knife.

Your take on reality is way off.

[hlthe2b]

18. A funny "sell-out" opportunist is a Good "sell-out" opportunist?

Sort of like saying there are "good" traitors and "bad" traitors...

To me, if there is a "good" Republican, it is one who will compromise for the greater good and stand up to the extremists of his/her party, even if it means losing reelection. I've not seen one of those in recent decades.

[Lizzie Poppet]

20. As hypocritical horndogs go, sure... not odious.

Let's see: terrible political positions, demontrated lack of character, pungently hypocritical (slams the bailouts/stimulus, but is on the board of several corporations that took them), probably a serial sexual harasser...

Oh, no, not odious at all. :sarcasm:

[ThomWV]

22. Well guess his public relations folks have you eating out of their hands.

It would appear you have bought their line completely, hook, line, and sinker as they used to say.

[JVS]

23. He's odious too.

[boston bean]

24. most Americans appreciate a good joke. That doesn't mean they like a joke played on them.

Cain is pretty far out there, I will agree with that.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

25. "One may smile, and smile, and be a villain..."

Cain is just as odious as the rest of them. A big smile and those weirdly clever ads (performance art, if you like) don't change the fact that he's just as wingnutty and hateful as all the other creeps on the Hannity end of the scale.