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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:19 AM Original message |
Why do people fear Greek democracy? |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
1. The PTB don't want people or countries crawling from the wreckage like Iceland did. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
24. Hammer, meet nail. nt |
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dtexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
2. Because those who fear Greek democracy fear ALL democracy. |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
3. "The Economist": the Greeks have four options. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
4. as much as anything, the fear is uncertainty |
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Indydem (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
5. Seriously? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I see it the other way. |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. One big problem is that the Greeks hate to pay taxes. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. It is a big problem. |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. That's right |
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Indydem (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Public Assistance =/= Retirement @ 60 and 25 Vacation Days |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I always find it odd that people attack how much money other people make. |
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pennylane100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. From what I can gather, the greeks have the same problem we do |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
6. The ruling class will always fear a self conscious people. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
12. The far-right in Europe wants the EU to fail and sees a Greek default as a step in that direction. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I think you've found the mortal flaw of the EU. |
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Pigheaded (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
13. The Greeks borrowed money |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. The banks leant it, even though the Greeks were incapable of paying. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #15 |
26. That sounds familiar. nt |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
16. It's dangerous to let the people have a say in their own fate. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. How true. |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
19. Europe needs to be unified between the Rhine and the Urals, north of the Alps/Danube |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. I'm not sure it needs to be unified at all. |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Individual European countries are too small to be economically successful by themselves |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Define 'succeed'. You do know that Greece has existed for a very, very |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Greece has been a province of something else since roughly 146 BC |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Italy made the Mediterranean their private lake for a thousand years |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
22. For the same reason we fear death. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
23. You're asking about democracy as it relates to the EU, which is really kind of amusing |
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randome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
25. People elect leaders for a reason. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. I agree |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
28. im not sure the greeks know what a rejection of the euro would mean |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Don't underestimate them. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. Iceland was told the same thing. nt |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
30. They don't |
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FreeJoe (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
32. Fear it? I don't. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-01-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Better to choose austerity on your own terms than have it imposed upon you. |
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