More of the few "bad apples": Cops protest corruption charges for ticket fixing. "It's a courtesy"

[Hassin Bin Sober]

NYPD officers surround Bronx courthouse in support of indicted cops in ticket-fixing scandal


The cops cheered their purportedly crooked co-workers as they exited the courthouse after posting bail, while vilifying Bronx District Attorney Robert Johnson, Mayor Bloomberg and the head of the NYPD.

Dozens of cops lined a hallway outside the courtroom where the suspects appeared at the morning hearing.

While the turnout was meant as support for the indicted cops, the air crackled with anger over the nearly three-year probe that involved hundreds of cops.

"You piece of s---," snarled one cop at a Bronx prosecutor on his way to work.

"Cowards!" shouted another heckler.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/10/28/2011-10-28_nypd_officers_gather_at_bronx_courthouse_in_support_of_indicted_cops_in_ticketfi.html#ixzz1c6m9WLAq

Heh, heh heh, what da fuck are you lookin' at

[Lyric]

1. What is "ticket fixing"?

I'm not sure what they're talking about.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Well for a donation

We will ignore that ticket and make it go away.

[aikoaiko]

4. You get a ticket from one police officer and you ask a second officer to void it.

Sometimes the second officer asks permission of the first, sometimes not.


Sometimes money or other favors are involved as a quid pro quo.

[aikoaiko]

14. Shiiiiiiiiiiit. I am the only one on DU who has tickets fixed?

:shrug:

[etherealtruth]

32. No

[Danse]

2. Criminal Gang

Police MUST NOT be held accountable for ANY infraction, whether fixing tickets, torture or murder, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. Got it?

[VWolf]

5. "It's been going on since the days of the Egyptians"

So has raping and pillaging. Does that make it ok?

Pretty stupid argument, if you ask me.

[Dawson Leery]

6. This overpaid worthless PIGS Oakland brothers caused brain damage to a Marine.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/28/doctors-scott-olsen-suffered-brain-damage-and-is-unable-to-speak/

Yes, they are overpaid and worthless. Goombas. :puke:

[msongs]

7. those signs from the Police union = union endorsing criminal behavior nt

[ProgressiveProfessor]

8. A real black eye to the unions indeed

[Hassin Bin Sober]

12. Bullshit. The unions get paid to represent their members. Like attorneys.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

13. Endorsing illegal behavior with the union imprimatur is wrong

You did see that is what Msongs posted or do you agree with that?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

17. No more than an attorney minimizing their client's illegal behavior.

I didn't throw a shit-fit about attorneys when Scooter Libby's attorneys were running around the media minimizing HIS crimes. Libby was the guilty party.

No. The pigs are the scumbags here. Not the unions - well maybe the union because it's full of pigs. But this ain't a "union" issue.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

28. Again, I disagree. This is a public employee union trying to justify illegal behavior

by members in general, not defending specific members in specific cases. It will be used as an example of why unions are evil, especially public employee unions.

I also believe that on a larger level, unions need to represent our ideals, and special treatment for them and their friends should not be one of them. That is a 1% kind of thing

[Hassin Bin Sober]

30. Yeah. Ok. Good luck with that. Unions should side with management. LOL. This place.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

31. This has nothing to do with mangement issues whatsoever

but it is giving public unions a black eye. If you support that...

[ellisonz]

21. RICO.

[Xicano]

9. "Its a courtesy not a crime"

"Not a crime". Oh really? Hmmmm, lets check and see.

New York Penal - Article 215 - § 215.40 Tampering With Physical Evidence


§ 215.40 Tampering with physical evidence.

A person is guilty of tampering with physical evidence when:

1. With intent that it be used or introduced in an official proceeding
or a prospective official proceeding, he (a) knowingly makes, devises or
prepares false physical evidence, or (b) produces or offers such
evidence at such a proceeding knowing it to be false; or

2. Believing that certain physical evidence is about to be produced or
used in an official proceeding or a prospective official proceeding, and
intending to prevent such production or use, he suppresses it by any act
of concealment, alteration or destruction, or by employing force,
intimidation or deception against any person.

Tampering with physical evidence is a class E felony.



http://law.onecle.com/new-york/penal/PEN0215.40_215.40.html



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New York Penal - Article 215 - § 215.35 Tampering With Physical Evidence; Definitions of Terms


§ 215.35 Tampering with physical evidence; definitions of terms.

The following definitions are applicable to section 215.40:

1. "Physical evidence" means any article, object, document, record or
other thing of physical substance which is or is about to be produced or
used as evidence in an official proceeding.

2. "Official proceeding" means any action or proceeding conducted by
or before a legally constituted judicial, legislative, administrative or
other governmental agency or official, in which evidence may properly be
received.

http://law.onecle.com/new-york/penal/PEN0215.35_215.35.html

[Logical]

10. The older I get the LESS respect I have for Cops. It is a hell of a good job with great....

benefits and great retirement benefits. We need a better class of people to take those jobs.

And cops NEVER get in trouble unless there is video of them breaking the law.

I honestly do not like the police at all.

[ellisonz]

22. Even if there is video...

...they often get off entirely or with just a slap on the wrist.

[Logical]

29. True!

True!

[ohheckyeah]

11. It sure looks like

more than a "few" bad apples, doesn't it?

[backscatter712]

18. 99% of cops give the good ones a bad name... n/t

[Joe the Revelator]

15. So none of you would have a ticket fixed if given the opportunity?

Give me a fucking break.

[Mister Ed]

16. No.

No, I would not.

[lutefisk]

19. I wouldn't.

And government employees (I am one) don't get to "bend" the rules. It doesn't matter if it's the President of the United States, a public school teacher, a USPS employee, an IRS agent, or a police officer- the government is what holds society together. Well, I know, other things do, too, but if we lose the integrity of our government, we are screwed.

[yewberry]

20. Are you kidding? No way.

I'm a public employee in a union. My agency has been raked over the coals by local media for completely legal (and contractually required) actions. (We didn't write the contracts, folks, we just gotta follow them...)

You think I'm going to take illegal favors? Oh, HELL no.

[ellisonz]

23. No.

[aikoaiko]

24. I used to when I was working with police on sexual assault prevention issues.

I'd mention I got a ticket and then office would say, "let me take care if it".

I gave him the ticket and it went away.

It was a courtesy in matters where officers had discretion.

[MindPilot]

25. In a heartbeat. But isn't that why we have laws?

[Exilednight]

26. Actually, i had a friend who is a cop offer to fix a parking ticket for me, but I declined his offer

Your statement really says a lot about you, though. It's easy to say you have principle, but it's a lot different if you don't live by those principles.

[Joe the Revelator]

33. My principal is....

......I'd rather have a favor done for me in a moving violation, than give my insurance company a 1000 extra dollars a year because of a mistake.

[Exilednight]

34. Getting a ticket doesn't automatically raise your rates. Getting several tickets will, and if

you're that horrible a driver, then you probably deserve to have your rates raised.

[occupyeverywhere]

27. Corrupt assholes

[Nye Bevan]

35. So it's "not a crime" because they've been getting away with it for years and years?

An interesting philosophy, coming from law-enforcement officers.