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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 10:18 PM
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My daughter once said I had an inner hippie...that I should have been one in the 60s.
It's really an amazing thing for her to say since she always saw the mean parent, strict teacher side of me. It showed a lot of perception and insight I guess into who I really wanted to be.

I couldn't be that, not where I lived, not where I went to high school. I did get my mind opened up in college thank goodness.

There were no hippies where I live, not then not now. Nothing really very similar. It was so conservative here that some of the deacons in our Southern Baptist Church warned my parents against letting me go to see Elvis in his appearance here. They let me go of course, that is how they were.

It's still pretty much that way around here. We were talking with another liberal this week, one of the very few who are in the area. We discussed how we actually don't bother to have conversations about the real world because they lead nowhere.

I feel that inner rebel coming out when I watch and read about the Occupy Wall Street movement and offshoots. I want so badly to be there, but life has gotten in the way too much lately. Too much illness, too many close family lost, too many things tying us down.

I know the word hippie really doesn't apply now any more than it did in the 60s. These are people who are standing for all of us who can't be there. No, they are not hippies, but true to the form of the media they will probably be called worse before it's over.

Still my anger is bubbling to the surface every day now. I am seeing a party I have been a part of since I could vote become something I do not recognize. They are standing for the very same things the Republicans stand for, a very dangerous thing in times like this. The Republicans cater to the Tea Party extremists out of fear of losing.

Our Democrats became complicit with the Republicans for fear of losing, forgetting they have millions of us who are waiting for them to stand for something.

How dare the Democrats not only carry on Bush's agenda of privatizing schools...but push it even further than he ever did. How can they in good conscience allow the negativity toward public schools and teachers without speaking up? I guess they need the money of the billionaire boys club to win their next election.

And the cuts the Democrats are pushing in Medicare, Medicaid are unconscionable. They are already defunding Social Security on the sly by cutting its funding by cutting payroll tax cuts.

Seniors are scared and angry, and they have no one advocating for them now except some groups who realize the danger. There is not a single power player in politics who is speaking out for the elderly. Oh, there is maybe a word now and then in a TV interview, but that is about all. No major push to protect the safety net for seniors is going on.

Obama finally took the initiative to help those facing foreclosure, but I think it took OWS to get his attention.

Here's what I read today about how very proud the Democrats on the Super Committee are of their efforts to push even harder than the Republicans to get huge cuts in senior programs that need to survive.

Democrats made the first move in a closed-door meeting this week, pressing the bipartisan panel to pursue a far-reaching deal to slice $3 trillion from the federal budget over the next decade through an equal mix of spending cuts and new revenue. The proposal calls for significant cuts to health and retirement programs, as well as $1.3 trillion in new taxes.

...Baucus, who chairs the Senate Finance Committee, offered to cut as much as $500 billion from Medicare and other health programs and to adopt a less generous measure of inflation to calculate Social Security benefits, according to aides familiar with the talks. He also called for as much as $300 billion in new measures aimed at stimulating the flagging economy.

‘Supercommittee’ showing signs of life


They are proud and smiling over their progress. It makes me furious.

Now and then we see someone stand up and say enough. But it is not long enough or loud enough. We are supposed to hang on to every little sign of support from our party for the people of this country who are hurting.

When I write about how the federal government is giving tons of money to private companies to manage schools that once were public...that once were managed by local school districts I cringe. What's worse is the sound of silence that greets such posts. That is most telling silence ever. They are turning schools into corporate training grounds before our eyes, yet the silence grows except from a few stubborn folks and bloggers.

I can't be with the Occupy movement physically right now, but I am with them in spirit. I am with them financially as well. I watch Keith Olbermann every night to see what they are encountering. I am glad to see Rachel Maddow cover them some now.

I don't want the police to break their spirit. It's scary to watch their power tactics. It's showing me a country I never really have seen. Remember that though we knew of the anti-war movements in the 60s...there was not yet a wide-spread TV coverage.

That was about a war back then, one that was tearing our country and theirs apart.

This is about so much more than that. It is more like a matter of survival of our country in its present form because soon it will be too late.

My inner rebel is about ready to scream out at what I am seeing from our leaders. I am there in spirit with OWS.

My perceptive daughter was right. I would have been a very good hippie. If circumstances allowed I would be a very good OWSer as well.

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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:29 PM
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1. K & R
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:38 PM
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2. I still want to swat that bug.
I should be used to it by now. :rofl:

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:39 AM
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3. A Super Congress isn't Congress -- and we should sue to get rid of it -- !!
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 12:42 AM by defendandprotect
We should target not only Obama but any one who supports it -- !!

The Youth Revolution of the 1960's was a huge threat to the establishment --

that's why the GOP refers to it merely as a "Sexual" Revolution though it was

about much, much more --

And, I think it is that spirit that is working through the OWS movement --

and I hope whatever is beyond it and coming after -- but certainly revolution!

Non-violent revolution which is the only way -- violence only serves the RW.

It is the only way they can rise and we've had 50 years and more of their RW political

violence out in the open depriving us of liberal leadership and our people's govenrment!



Here are some thoughts by Mae Brussel re the Youth Revolution you may find interesting --

Indeed, in 1972, when the details began to come out about a break-in at Democratic Party headquarters in the Watergate Hotel, Mae immediately recognized personnel and modus operandi from nine years of assassination research, while the mainstream press continued to refer to Watergate as a "caper" and "a third-rate burglary." And so it came to pass that while Rabbi Magnin was entertaining Richard Nixon at his home in Los Angeles, his daughter Mae was revealing the President's role in an incredible conspiracy. Meanwhile, she also perceived an assassination plot, not merely against specific individuals, but against the entire counterculture that was burgeoning at the time.

"I realized that in this country we had a revolution--of housing, food, hair style, clothing, cosmetics, transportation, value systems, religion--it was an economic revolution, affecting the cosmetics industry, canned foods, the use of land; people were delivering their own babies, recycling old clothes, withdrawing from spectator sports. They were breaking the barriers where white and black could rap in 1967. This was the year of the Beatles, the summer of Sergeant Pepper, the Monterey Pop Festival, Haight-Ashbury, make your own candle and turn off the electricity, turn on with your friends and laugh--that's what life was all about."


http://maebrussell.com/Mae%20Brussell%20Articles/Ballad%20of%20Mae%20Brussell.html




And here's how they began to demonize them --

http://maebrussell.com/Transcriptions/16.html



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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 11:07 AM
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7. That Super Committee scares me to death. Too much power.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 11:11 AM
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8. Think we could have taken the near billion we gave to Obama in '08 and hired
a team of lawyers -- I've always said Erin Brockovitch ourselves -- but get

serious about taking back government.

Problem is these are very violent people -- violence is their first and last response!



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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 01:50 AM
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4. proud to say i was kind of a hippie.
Edited on Thu Oct-27-11 01:51 AM by DesertFlower
divorced my first husband in early '67. i was 25 years old. i worked but i also protested. my 66 mustang had peace signs on the bumper. my handbag had buttons that said "what if they gave a war and no one came"? also peace signs on the bag. i got so tan in the summer of '70 that i was able to use white eye liner and paint a peace sign on one cheek and a flower on the other.

i lived in New york city and it was a great time. "make love not war" was the slogan and i did.

we did crazy things like paying the toll for the person in the car behind you. i wore rose tinted glasses and wild clothes.

now i'm 70 and living in right wing phoenix, arizona. my health is not good, but i do what i can by spreading the word on the internet and donating to OWS. i still wear my hair long and straight. guess i'm an old hippie.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:01 AM
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5. I called myself a hippie in the Nixon era, but looking back on it, I'm a bit disappointed
in how widespread idiotic libertarian ideas were among my friends and in how often we thought the best approach was simply to drop out

I always admired the direct action of the sixties, but again looking back, I'm struck by how much of it was amorphous anti-status-quo and how little of the dull hard unsexy development of long-term agenda development and essential outreach to centrists took place

The sixties-era more or less decisively ended with the US withdrawal from Vietnam in the early 70s, and then everyone suddenly seemed exhausted by the sturm-und-drang and there was a sort of increasing cynicism and withdrawal that set the stage for Reagan's election in 1980
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 11:13 AM
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9. You might be interested in this ...
Here are some thoughts by Mae Brussel re the Youth Revolution you may find interesting --

Indeed, in 1972, when the details began to come out about a break-in at Democratic Party headquarters in the Watergate Hotel, Mae immediately recognized personnel and modus operandi from nine years of assassination research, while the mainstream press continued to refer to Watergate as a "caper" and "a third-rate burglary." And so it came to pass that while Rabbi Magnin was entertaining Richard Nixon at his home in Los Angeles, his daughter Mae was revealing the President's role in an incredible conspiracy. Meanwhile, she also perceived an assassination plot, not merely against specific individuals, but against the entire counterculture that was burgeoning at the time.

"I realized that in this country we had a revolution--of housing, food, hair style, clothing, cosmetics, transportation, value systems, religion--it was an economic revolution, affecting the cosmetics industry, canned foods, the use of land; people were delivering their own babies, recycling old clothes, withdrawing from spectator sports. They were breaking the barriers where white and black could rap in 1967. This was the year of the Beatles, the summer of Sergeant Pepper, the Monterey Pop Festival, Haight-Ashbury, make your own candle and turn off the electricity, turn on with your friends and laugh--that's what life was all about."

http://maebrussell.com/Mae%20Brussell%20Articles/Ballad...






And here's how they began to demonize them --

http://maebrussell.com/Transcriptions/16.html

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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:06 PM
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17. Loved Mae Brussell.
Thanks for sharing this link on DU. I wonder how many folks are familiar with her research?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:03 PM
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16. My biggest problem with the "Hippie Movement" was that in the end, it was about nothing
Take Abbie Hoffman. Run a pig for president, vandalize Grand Central Station, make the Chicago police response worse by provoking the cops, why? what's the point? Is it any surprise Rubin turned out to be such a Reaganite?

Yes, there was the war, and that part of it kind of worked - - in that it got the mainstream involved in what was once a fringe issue. OWS is doing that too - and their message is much more focused than the Yippie movement.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 08:48 AM
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6. K&R Mad. I always knew you had it in you.
LBJ was reputed to have said that any person worth a damn had been a communist in the thirties. Same with hippies and the sixties.

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:15 PM
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10. Great post. A lot of us are there in spirit with OWS.
Have you seen the movie "Join Us" yet? it is a documentary about these people in the Carolinas who got taken in by a pastor, to the point they were beating their own kids.

You might find some comfort in the movie - it shows how religion is so pervasive in some areas of the nation, and how much of a cult these "born again" Christian movements are. In some ways it is scary - to think that the most pervasive form of expression in some parts of the land are these travesties of "religion."

But in other ways, it shows us what we are up against - that people would rather adhere blindly to some old man's wicked philosophy - to the point they will beat their children, rather than stand on their own and lead good lives.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:49 PM
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13. "how religion is so pervasive in some areas of the nation"
I don't think people really believe me when I tell them.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 02:21 PM
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14. That is one reason that I mention the video.
So if you want to, you can suggest that any people who are skeptical of the control that religion is bringing over peopele's thought processes go and watch the film. (I am pretty sure "Join Us" is available as a DVD.)

It makes me very concerned as a voter. If people embrace war just because George W had a vision of Jesus telling him to wage the war, if they beat their kids because a verse in the old Testament says "Spare the rod and you spoil the child," and on and on, then this nation is lost.


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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:27 PM
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11. Being a hippie is getting in touch with your inner bullseye.
It's a matter of figuring who wants to aim at it. If it's "the man" then you're a hippie.

--imm
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 12:47 PM
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12. heh heh
Love the description.
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FloriTexan Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 11:58 AM
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15. I tried to rec this...
Edited on Fri Oct-28-11 11:58 AM by FloriTexan
but it wouldn't let me. Your daughter is proud of this post :hippie:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 12:24 PM
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18. ......
:hi:

Can only rec for 24 hrs. But thanks for trying. :D
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