Damn Oakland Police are trying to deny ever using rubber bullets last night!

[in_cog_ni_to]

However, people found rubber bullets on the streets and there's pictures all over the internet. Lawrence O'Donnell just interviewed a young lady in NY who said she has seen the rubber bullets herself. There were large ones and small ones. Oakland cops are fucking LIARS.

on edit: Here's a picture of one of the rubber bullets they never used:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/occupy-oakland-did-police-use-flashbangs-and-rubber-bullets-on-protesters/2011/10/26/gIQAL4pOJM_blog.html

[AngkorWot]

1. There were apparently many local police organizations there last night.

They claim they did not use rubber bullets, but they can't confirm or deny that the other police organizations did.

:shrug:

[TNLib]

4. I think the OPD could easily confirm it. But they just won't say.

It's silly to even think that something that important and easily confirmed, could not be confirmed.

[AngkorWot]

6. Then why would they both to hide it?

[TNLib]

17. My guess is they don't want to say for pr and liability reasons.

nt

[ProgressiveProfessor]

25. That sounds to be the most likely case

However Oakland PD was the lead agency and are responsible for what happened and what got used regards.

[EFerrari]

2. Weasel words. It could have been one of the other agencies there.

There were like five or six of them. It was an invasion of cops yesterday.

[DontTreadOnMe]

3. Yes, but you NEED to actually have them in hand

Where are the ones people found... it will be a HUGE problems if the Oakland Police are stating they never fired rubber bullets, and then there is proof. No eyewitness proof, you need the actual rubber bullets.

[in_cog_ni_to]

9. People from last night's protest have the rubber bullets! I've seen the pictures of them. Here's one

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/occupy-oakland-did-police-use-flashbangs-and-rubber-bullets-on-protesters/2011/10/26/gIQAL4pOJM_blog.html

[valerief]

5. They all lie. nt

[CoffeeCat]

7. Someone MUST have cell-phone footage...

...of those rubber bullets.

I'm convinced the only reason why the police brutality hasn't been worse--is because
the police know that they're being filmed.

This whole situation makes me so sick. I can't take looking at that video of Iraqi
war vet who was injured. It's just so sad and it didn't have to be that way.

[Dawson Leery]

10. The FOP has been lobbying to outlaw the filming of LEO's by civilians.

[Balbus]

8. In your last sentence you could have excluded the "oakland" part.

[in_cog_ni_to]

12. True. :( n/t

[CoffeeCat]

11. Is this denial part of a cover up...

...regarding the Iraqi vet who was shot in the head?

Are they now denying that they used any type of force that would have caused
his injury?

This is why we MUST keep those cell phone cameras rolling. They can't lie
if we're all filming them.

[in_cog_ni_to]

13. Lawrence just said the Oakland Police are denying ever using them. It probably IS

covering their asses before the truth comes out.

[CoffeeCat]

19. and the Oakland Police are now trying to censor...

..you tube videos of the protest and the injury. They are demanding that
those videos be taken down.

They're only galvanizing OWS and attracting attention to the sick state of this
country.

[in_cog_ni_to]

20. They cannot stop this movement. They should just give up now before someone gets killed. n/t

[ProgressiveProfessor]

26. Any citations for that? Google posted the annual summary recently

but these would have to be brand new

[Fire Walk With Me]

14. Here is their official statement in which they LIE, download it before it's gone:

"Q. Did the Police deploy rubber bullets, flash-bag (sic) grenades?
A. No, the loud noises that were heard originated from M-80 explosives thrown at
Police by protesters."

http://www2.oaklandnet.com/oakca/groups/cityadministrator/documents/pressrelease/oak031911.pdf

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. They even denied any injuries! I've saved screen shots of their lies.

Unbelieveable.

[jimlup]

15. Oakland cops are absolutely liars! I remember this from protests there years ago...

back in the '91 Gulf War I protests.

[in_cog_ni_to]

18. I posted a link to a picture of a rubber bullet found last night at the Oakland protest.

I edited the OP and added a link to the pic.

[Fire Walk With Me]

21. Thank you!

:hi:

[in_cog_ni_to]

22. You're welcome!

:hi: More proof they LIED.

[tech3149]

23. Just to be clear, they aren't "rubber bullets", they are rubber covered

There's a steel ball at the center of that bullet. It needs that mass to maintain velocity and impact force. They might be considered non-lethal but that's only true if you hit soft tissue that can absorb the impact. Put one of those to the skull or temple and you won't walk away.
Bonus Army 2011

[Fire Walk With Me]

24. Dang, thanks..

[lonestarnot]

27. K & R!