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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:01 PM
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Well, today I joined the ranks of the unemployed.
I went in to work and was told my position had been eliminated.
Shit.
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:03 PM
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1. i'm sorry to hear that
What kind of work was it? What are hiring prospects like in that field?

:hug:

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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:03 PM
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2. What do you do for a living?
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:03 PM
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3. That sucks...totally unexpected??
Did they offer some sort of package..??
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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:05 PM
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8. Totally unexcpected.
Edited on Tue Oct-25-11 12:15 PM by vanbean
I am in the IT field. They gave me a small severence, and I can retire. But I am in no way ready to do that.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 01:07 PM
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30. My husband is in the IT field...
...and he was laid off recently.

I know how how you feel. We went through it and are still going through it. I know
you're probably in shock a bit and adjusting to this new reality. I can tell you, that
it GETS BETTER. Seriously. You won't always feel as gobsmacked as you do right now.

I wanted to let you know about a couple of things that we've learned as we go through
this situation.

1.) Apply for unemployment IMMEDIATELY--if you haven't all ready. There is some lag
time and you want to get that money coming in ASAP.

2.) You're in IT--and the good news is that contract jobs for IT are plentiful. My
husband got contracting jobs right away. Contact recruiters or companies for which
you would like to work--and see if they are contracting. You might be surprised.
We were. Also, check with your state and local government and their hiring situations.
Our state has cut EVERYTHING and the budget is a big concern--so there is a hiring freeze.
Because they're not hiring full time employees, they're hiring contractors. Check out
the State or local government employment pages.

3.) Did you know that you can collect unemployment while you are contracting? YES, it's true!
When you contact, you are considered working for yourself--and technically unemployed. If you
get some contract work and unemployment--you can find yourself getting close to your previous
salary--depending on what you do and previous pay. Most of the IT contract jobs I've
seen, pay $40-$60 per hour. Double check with your state unemployment laws.

4.) Health insurance. This is a pain in the butt isn't it? And if you're contracting, you
won't get benefits. Does your company offer COBRA? I know it's expensive, but hear me
out. Look over your COBRA information. In most cases, companies give you 60 days to
enroll in COBRA. Here's what some people do. Go without insurance for those 60 days.
However, if something does happen to you--notify your HR dept and let them know that you
want to enroll. Then, you're covered. It's a gamble, because technically you are uncovered.
However, you save the money and take the risk--knowing that you can enroll if something
unfortunate does happen. With that said, PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK this with your HR department
as you exit--to ensure that there is no hidden fine print. Ask them about doing this
and the upsides/downsides.

Best of luck to you. I know how hard this is. Again, it does get better--as you go
from shock to action. Just allow yourself some time to get used to this new reality.

If you want to let us know where you are or what type of IT you do--please add more info.
Others may be able to help.

Take care!! :)

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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 04:30 PM
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39. Wow! Thanks a million CoffeeCat. I love DU. It is sure nice to know
Edited on Tue Oct-25-11 04:32 PM by vanbean
I have friends with good advice. I have been doing IT work since 1985, and I know programming, networking, administration,.... I know the ropes, I'm a quick study, (even though this sounds stupid), and I have great references. Thank you for the post, that is great info. (BTW, I am in NM and relatively close to Albuquerque.)

Thanks to all of my DU brothers and sisters. It means more to me than I can express right now. I'll get by.

Thanks again to all of you.

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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 09:49 PM
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44. I'm trying to get in that field, and now cuz of this post I'm worried
Maybe I'll have to move to India and get paid sh*t wages just to work that job?
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RockaFowler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:03 PM
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4. I am so sorry
:hug:

Please take care of your self
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:04 PM
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5. sorry
suckz
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:05 PM
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6. Damn!!!
No warning? You arrived at work and the boss just said "adios?"

:(
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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #6
10. Yes. They were shocked and blind-sided too. It was the corporate
people who let me go, not the local folks. Bastards.
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:09 PM
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11. That's messed up. There was a post here the other day asking how brand loyal you are.
It got me thinking, perhaps the question should be how loyal are corporations to their customers and employees? Clearly, they aren't.
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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:22 PM
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19. I learned a long time ago that you are just a number to a corporation.
Corporations are not benevolent.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:33 PM
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26. Sorry to hear this...
Edited on Tue Oct-25-11 12:34 PM by KansDem
Many of us who are working like to think we're safe in our jobs, but reading of your situation and similar situations with other DUers only reminds us that none of us is safe...

Take care and hope things change for the better!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:05 PM
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7. well that sucks...hope you find a better job
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:07 PM
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9. ...
:hug:

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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:09 PM
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12. So sorry, and good luck!
I've been there. Hang in there.

Bake
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:10 PM
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13. I am so sorry...
That is really a nasty thing to do to you. Esp. without warning.

Be gentle with yourself...

:hug:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:10 PM
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14. Are you at "retirement eligible" (aka Social Security) age?
You might have an argument for age discrimination.

Be careful what you sign.

Be interesting to see if someone younger than you with less experience was kept on, while you were shown the door against your will.

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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:18 PM
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18. I just turned 59. I have always had very good performance reviews.
I have been told they will fill the position, so I have a case for age discrimination, but it is a huge corporation with lots and lots of lawyers, so I am screwed there, I think.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:32 PM
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25. Still go consult with an employment lawyer
Plaintiff lawyers are used to going up against corporate lawyers - one area where the is hope - the suits are not sympathetic defendants.
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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:45 PM
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27. I will go see one, probably as soon a tomorrow.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:51 PM
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28. Age discrimination is very very common and almost impossible to prove.
I'm out there too. I'm sorry this happened to you.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 02:26 PM
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34. Maybe some lawyer will take you on contingency? Perhaps you can get
some direction, anyway, from legal aid?

I think it stinks what they're doing to you.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 02:29 PM
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35. They may "sweeten the pot" with a settlement for you. Cheaper than a lawsuit.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:11 PM
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15. I'm very sorry to hear that.
Losing a job when it is not expected, can be very hard to deal with emotionally.

And then you get to thinking about all the bills.

I hope you are able to keep afloat while looking for another job and hope you find one soon!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:14 PM
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16. That sucks! nt
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:16 PM
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17. I'm hoping you're gonna say you were
Edited on Tue Oct-25-11 12:17 PM by Shagbark Hickory
were a technician at a Nuke plant. Or were a coal miner. Or oil driller. Or maybe you worked at Bank of America.

But you're probably not going to say that.
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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:23 PM
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20. Thanks to the kind soul who made a donation for me. That choked me up.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:26 PM
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23. I wanted to do something nice for you...
So you would feel a little better, a little less isolated...

:hug:
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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 04:35 PM
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41. It worked, Thank you again. I'll remember that for a long time.
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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:25 PM
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21. Dupe
Edited on Tue Oct-25-11 12:25 PM by vanbean
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:25 PM
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22. So sorry to hear your news.
Best of luck to you in your job search. :hug:
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:29 PM
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24. At least they waited for you to come into work. I got a CALL while on vacation!!!
- they wanted me to drop my vacation plans and come in for a meeting at the last minute. I told them I couldn't come in and if they had something to tell me to tell me over the phone.

Welcome to the club! I'm starting to think we should have tee-shirts or badges or something . . .

OH, and best of luck to you and hang in there!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 12:51 PM
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29. No warning, even? Jesus!
:(
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 01:37 PM
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31. Sorry to hear that. nt
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lbrtbell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 02:09 PM
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32. That's how I was once fired, too
Totally unexpected. :(

I'm so sorry for you, and hope you can get work again soon.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 02:24 PM
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33. I am so sorry about this. Come on over to the lounge for a drink! MFM's on a roll with jokes
and we'll have you right in no time.


(seriously though, major suckage).
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 02:49 PM
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36. So sorry to hear this. My son works in IT and he went through layoffs twice--
both times, no notice, second time he got a small severance.
First time as he was leaving at 7 PM told not to come back to work
the next day. Second time, escorted to HR and out of the building,
along with 75% of his department.

He's been in his current job now for 3 1/2 years (with a local
town government) and I'm getting nervous as I keep reading about
the layoffs hitting local and state governments.

Good luck.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 03:00 PM
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37. So sorry about that.
:( K&R
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 03:01 PM
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38. Sadly, we are legion.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 04:31 PM
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40. I'm so sorry.
:hug:
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 04:36 PM
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42. I'm very sorry to hear this...
I hope you find something soon.

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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 04:45 PM
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43. Recommending for visibility -
Lots of IT folks on here so maybe someone can help.

My field is not IT, but I was laid off in 2006 when my company lost some major business. I knew we were slow but figured they'd just move folks around, no such luck. I had never been laid off previously so my mom had to coach me on how to apply for unemployment. That meant also applying for jobs and I had a new one within a couple months. Less money, but much more in line with what I wanted to do.

I know it is much worse now than even 5 years ago, but I'm hoping your experience will open some doors for you. Let us know how it's going.
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 09:51 PM
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45. Our thoughts are with you. You have a community here nt
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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 09:55 PM
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46. That sucks!!
I will keep good thoughts for you! :hug:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 11:00 PM
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47. vibes to you.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 11:09 PM
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48. Good luck. May you find employment soon...
My best wishes to all those who are unemployed. I am very fortunate as I am retired and I am not looking for work as that would take a job away from someone who needs it far more than I do.

That may change if the stock market and my 401k totally collapses which just might happen.

I keep telling myself that the economy will soon improve. I've seen a lot of recessions in my life, but this is definitely the Great Recession. Let's just hope that it doesn't become another Great Depression if isn't already.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 11:58 PM
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49. I am very sorry.
This country is getting scarier by the day.
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