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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 03:51 AM
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Ain't this the truth!
Edited on Mon Jan-17-11 03:52 AM by UrbScotty


(Wasn't sure if I should post it here or in the Sports forum. It does say a lot about where many people's priorities are, however!)
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 05:14 AM
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1. I do not understand it
When I lived in Columbus, OH, every year there would be all kinds of talk about how tuition at OSU was going up again. Yet... OSU could put their logo on a dog turd and sell it for 49.99 and people out there would line up for miles to get one. I don't know where all the money goes but I'm pretty sure none of it is helping to reduce tuition.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 07:38 AM
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2. football games bring in money. smart people don't i guess.
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 12:22 PM
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17. Another MYTH - Hardly ANY College Football Teams Bring In Money
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 05:06 PM
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20. Really ...?? That's not what CNNMoney found
This is what CNNMoney found ...

The profit for the 68 teams that play in the six major conferences was up 11% from the prior school year, according to a CNNMoney analysis of figures filed by each school with the Department of Education.

In the school year that ended in 2010, the vast majority of the schools in one of these deep-pocketed conferences posted a profit. Four of them broke even and only one -- Wake Forest -- reported a loss.

On average, each team earned $15.8 million last year, or well over $1 million per game.


http://money.cnn.com/2010/12/29/news/companies/college_football_dollars/index.htm

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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 07:56 AM
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3. If you have an IQ of 179 and you can't get an academic scholarship ...
there is something wrong with you.

A better question might be ... "How the hell did George W Bush get into Yale and Harvard, when some kid with a 179 IQ could not".

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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:02 AM
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4. More than a few very bright people don't get the grades for a scholarship..
There are several reasons for this but one of the main ones is that really bright kids often end up bored out of their skulls in a lot of our schools.
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PJPhreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:07 AM
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6. Aint that the truth! I for one can attest to this. nt
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:45 AM
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8. And the ones that are bored in public schools just might benefit from
a voucher program that would allow them to attend a private school.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:51 AM
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9. In my neck of the woods virtually all of the private schools are of the "Christian Academy" flavor..
Somehow I don't see memorizing the Old Testament to be an answer for bright kids who are bored in public schools.

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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:21 AM
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12. Reading "Beowulf" in 1960 didn't do a lot for me over the years. What
is the difference?
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:35 AM
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14. Well, a quite bright sixteen year old I know has gone to a Christian Academy his entire schooling..
And has never even *heard* of Neanderthal man.

The boy is about as interested in science as I was at that age (quite a bit) but back in the dark ages when I went to school I was thoroughly familiar with Neanderthals and had been for several years at that age.

The point being that many Christan Academies offer a very limited education, particularly in the sciences. When you are convinced that the Earth is but six thousand years old there really isn't much in the way of science you can engage in without severe cognitive dissonance, from astronomy to zoology, science is incompatible with a fundamentalist view of the Bible. The way the Christian Academies deal with this cognitive dissonance is by not teaching anything that might conflict with fundie beliefs.





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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:07 AM
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5. Bush got into Yale because he was a legacy.
His father and grandfather both went there. Not sure about the Harvard enrollment, but I suspect Daddy's money had a lot to do with it. And, I'm sure it was helpful at Yale, too.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 04:57 PM
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19. There is a reason that college applications ask ...
1) How much your parents make

2) Where they went to school

If your parents have enough money, and one or both are an alumni, you get extra points on admission.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:36 AM
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15. My sister got several scholarships for her brilliance
Problem was they were means tested based on my Dad's previous year of income. So because he only earned a little her senior year in high school, she got about one third of her college expenses for her freshman year. But that year, he got a fat consulting contract, so the next year she lost all her scholarship money - when Dad earned less than $1500 for the entire year. Once they were taken away, the scholarships were not restored, even though means testing should have given them back. Over the years she spent getting her degrees she got a number of other scholarships, but not one paid enough that she did not have to work and to borrow money from our parents to keep up with expenses.

Even the lucrative year for her scholarships was not enough to pay all her expenses - they covered tuition and some books if she was lucky. Most academic scholarships do not pay every thing the way that athletic scholarships do. I don't know of any academic scholarships that pay full living expenses and "walking around money" like I hear about provided for college athletes. Academic scholarship recipients generally have to work as teaching and research assistants to supplement or keep their scholarships.
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:40 AM
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7. I got an academic scholarship when
I went off to college, which covered about one fifth of my expenses. When I made friends with some of the football players and they told me that they were getting a free ride, I was shocked. All of them were good guys, but I only knew one who was really college material. It made me very resentful towards the system which until then I believed was set up to reward the best and brightest. When I was in high school, my friends and I had made fun of jocks and the people who gave them an inordinate amount of praise -- I had always thought that college was different. It was a sad time when I realized that I was going to be in high school for the rest of my life.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 08:52 AM
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10. Ding. Ding.. We have a winner..
It was a sad time when I realized that I was going to be in high school for the rest of my life.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 09:24 AM
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11. +1
But the masses need an opiate, now more than ever!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:22 AM
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13. K & FUCKING R!
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 11:49 AM
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16. Darron Thomas, the kid in the poster, had a 3.3 GPA in high school and scored 1390 on the SAT.
Edited on Mon Jan-17-11 11:49 AM by Brickbat
He was on an academically advanced track starting in seventh grade. Even smart people pick their noses sometimes.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 04:54 PM
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18. My sense was that the nose picking wasn't the only reason this ...
guy's picture was selected for this "honor".

It occurs to me that if one wanted to make such a point with a poster like this one, and if they had an IQ above say 100, they certainly would have checked on who the guy was and what his qualifications had been.

I wonder what prompted this poster ... hummm .... I wonder if some one can remind me what day today is ... naaa, that can't be it.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-17-11 05:12 PM
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21. I had the same exact thought.
There's a lot of it in football, and it's ugly.
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