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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 07:18 AM
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Poll question: Mac users and Beetle drivers
Early 90s, I knew a lot of people who drove old VW Beetles and owned a Mac. Not an iMac, but the old classics.
Is this a sign of rebellion? Of daring to be different?

Did you....
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 07:20 AM
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1. I had both
And the Beetle was 7 years older than the Mac.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 07:22 AM
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2. Oops, I forgot that I "owned" both a beetle and a Mac (because it was not at the same time).
Owned a beetle in the late 60s, owned an old Mac that my kids had at college in the mid 90s when I went back to school. I replaced it with a PC in 1998.
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 07:30 AM
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5. Nothing in the poll
About ownership being simultaneous. The time frame you mention is roughly the time I noticed a correlation between Mac and Beetle owners.

Of course, in the next six or seven years, the world went to hell and you could no longer get a mudguard-mounted flasher or a running board to bolt on when you'd hit the side fence after coming home pissed.

Mac parts were just as hard to find. Switched to PC about the same time you did.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 07:52 AM
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12. This old Mac was old when my kids had it in the 80s! It was nice in a way
Edited on Thu Oct-06-11 07:52 AM by CTyankee
but I had no instruction on how to use it so I just screwed around for a long time (I do remember it had drag and drop which I thought was pretty advanced). I used to call up my daughter and ask her what I should do when I got stuck. She finally had had it with my lameness. She said, "Here's what you do. Are you near a window? Open it and toss the Mac out." :rofl:
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 07:23 AM
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3. I had a 65 Beetle and an Altair 8000
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 07:35 AM
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7. 67 Beetle
MacPlus. lol:)
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 07:24 AM
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4. Maybe I'm weird, but I stay away from beetles and fords
because of their nazi past. Yes, I do agree the beetles are cute. It's just one of those things as a Jew that I do.
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 07:34 AM
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6. Then I guess as a Scot
I should stay away from Rolls Royce. OK, I can do that.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 07:37 AM
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8. Neither because allowing yourself to be manipulated by a corporation is not "rebellion"
Buying a product because a company's marketing department has managed to build up a mystique of cool is gullibility and conformity, not rebellion.

You know how when the heater/defroster doesn't work in your car, and you have to drive looking through a small clear spot in the windshield? That's what using a MAC always felt like to me.

Those of us in the car biz used to say about Beetles, "you need two; one to work on and one to drive to the parts store."
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 07:44 AM
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10. I thought those were Jaguars (or British cars in general) that you needed two of.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 08:14 AM
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18. That was...
Edited on Thu Oct-06-11 08:15 AM by MindPilot
"Lucas Electrical...be home before dark."
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 07:45 AM
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11. Do you know the difference between
A car salesman and a Mac Salesman?

a. The car salesman knows when he's lying.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 08:16 AM
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19. Nice! Hadn't heard that one before!
:rofl:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 07:43 AM
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9. The Beetle was not about being different, it was about being frugal.
Other than some very spartan mini-cars, the VW beetle was the cheapest thing on wheels. Also, as the most produced car ever, it was far from an example of being different. Nearly everyone seems to have had one at some point.
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 07:59 AM
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13. Up until about 2000
Any film or TV series with a street scene ALWAYS had a white beetle somewhere in the shot.

Have a look at the cover of Abbey Road. Proves my point.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 08:08 AM
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16. Wait, be clear for a second.
"Have a look at the cover of Abbey Road. Proves my point."

What point are you talking about, do you mean your point that "Any film or TV series with a street scene ALWAYS had a white beetle somewhere in the shot."
If so, sure.


If you're talking about the idea that the beetle represents people "daring to be different", then it wouldn't prove your point at all. Something cannot be both unique and ubiquitous. Either it is everywhere and common, or it is uncommon and rarely seen.
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 08:12 AM
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17. Mate, I'm really sorry about that
I'm a newbie to the internets and I thought no one took stuff seriously.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 08:02 AM
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14. Own a Mac, always wanted a Beetle
but could never afford it. Now I'm holding out for the Fiat 500 Abarth convertible--it's the new car for quirky/cool/different. AND NOBODY SPOUT OFF WITH THE "FIX IT AGAIN TONY" SHIT. It wasn't even funny the first 32,000 times DUers posted it on here and it doesn't apply anymore because the electronics are no longer made in Italy. So skip it. :P
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 08:04 AM
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15. I owna mac and hate beetles. nt
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 08:17 AM
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20. It's a myth that the dreaded fuel pump vapour lock
Meant had to call for a tow. One can of medium cold beer poured over the fuel pump would cool it down enough to start again.

Knowing that, do you still hate Beetles?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 08:36 AM
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21. I have always hated them. I think they are ugly and noisy. nt
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 08:41 AM
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22. Many things are ugly and noisy,
DU is not exempt. Let's boycott all things ugly and noisy.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 08:42 AM
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23. because I don't like a particular car you paint with a broad brush?
nice try.

go away and try and pick your odd fight with someone else.

weird.

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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 08:43 AM
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24. Had a baja as a kid...
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 08:49 AM
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25. Have owned a couple of Beetles
and have always owned Macs.
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 08:59 AM
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26. I drove V dubs because they were easy to work on
and relatively cheap. My first beetle only cost $150.00 in '74
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 08:59 AM
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27. Own neither!
:)
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malthaussen Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 09:14 AM
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28. Neither. But...
My first computer was an Apple II+. And my cars have always been American-made compact cars.

-- Mal
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