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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 09:54 AM
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Amer College of Preventive Medicine to anti-gay NC Sen. Forrester: Remove medical credential claims
Edited on Fri Sep-30-11 09:54 AM by blm
from your website.

Email exchange between Scott Rose and American College of Preventive Medicine:

From: scottcaliente@earthlink.net
Date: Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:53 PM
Subject: URGENT COMPLAINT: DR. JAMES FORRESTER
To: mhalexan@jhsph.edu
Cc: "James.Forrester@ncleg.net"
From:
Scott Rose
Contributor
www.TheNewCivilRightsMovement.com
212-580-5328
To:
Dr. Miriam Alexander
The American College of Preventive Medicine
In Re: Dr. James Forrester
Dear Dr. Alexander:
I am concerned that Dr. James Forrester, apparently a Fellow of the ACPM, and
also a North Carolina State Senator, is intentionally broadcasting false and
anti-scientific health care information and statistics, in violation of all
professional medical ethics.
At the web page at this next link, by scrolling down just a bit you can find
two audio recordings on which interviewer Mike Signorile challenges Dr.
Forrester about the veracity of various health care claims he has made to the
public.
http://pamshouseblend.firedoglake.com/2011/09/27/mike-signorile-scorches-n-csen-
james-forrester-on-air-destroys-rationale-for-the-anti-gay-amendment/
It should not be ignored that Dr. Forrester has been making these fraudulent
health care claims in the context of hate-mongering against sexual minorities,
an activity which, in itself, I personally find unbecoming of a health care
professional. After Dr. Forrester had to admit that he had apparently lied
about a source for his fraudulent health care claims, he tried telling the
interviewer that the health care claims he had made came from a book written
by a non-physician.
Now, I have a few questions for you.
1) Is Dr. Forrester really a Fellow of the ACPM?
2) Where may I find the ACPM's Code of Physician Ethics?
3) Do you, personally, as President of the ACPM endorse such fraudulent
claims as those made by Dr. Forrester on the above-mentioned audio tapes?
Many advanced thanks for your attention to this matter,
Scott Rose
***
From: Mike Barry <mbarry@acpm.org>
Sent: Sep 28, 2011 7:50 AM
1/3
9/29/2011 10:16:53 AM forresterlies.txt
To: "Alexander, Miriam" <mhalexan@jhsph.edu>,
scottcaliente@earthlink.net
Cc: James.Forrester@ncleg.net, Jennifer Edwards <JEdwards@acpm.org>
Subject: RE: URGENT COMPLAINT: DR. JAMES FORRESTER
Scott,
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. The quick answer to your questions
is that Dr. Forrester is not, and never has been, a member of ACPM (much less
a Fellow, which is our highest designation of membership). However, this is
troubling to us, too, that he's apparently claiming to be a Fellow of ACPM,
and we would like to know where Dr. Forrester is making these proclamations so
that we can approach him and demand that he cease falsely using ACPM
credentials in his campaign or wherever else he's using it. If you can point
us to some places where he's using those credentials, we'd be most
appreciative. Many thanks.
Mike
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Michael A. Barry, CAE
Executive Director
American College of Preventive Medicine
Office: 202-466-2044 x1-106
Mobile: 410-979-1244
e: mbarry@acpm.org
***
From: scottcaliente@earthlink.netSent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 11:34 AM
To: Mike Barry; Alexander,Miriam
Cc: James.Forrester@ncleg.net; Jennifer Edwards
Subject: RE: URGENT COMPLAINT: DR. JAMES FORRESTER
Mike:
Thank you for your e-mail.
Forrester is alleging that he is an ACPM Fellow right on his bio page on the
Gaston County Republican Party website: http://www.gastongop.org/jamesforrester/
Scott Rose
Contributor
www.TheNewCivilRightsMomement.com
(212) 580-5328
***
From: Jennifer Edwards <JEdwards@acpm.org
Sent: Sep 28, 2011 8:58 AM
To: scottcaliente@earthlink.net, Mike Barry <mbarry@acpm.org, "Alexander,
Miriam" <mhalexan@jhsph.edu
Cc: James.Forrester@ncleg.net
Subject: RE: URGENT COMPLAINT: DR. JAMES FORRESTER
Hi Scott,
2/3
9/29/2011 10:16:53 AM forresterlies.txt
I've called Dr. Forrester's office. I spoke with Ms. Murphy and explained
that Dr. Forrester isn't one of our members and to please remove our name and
any references to us from their website.
Thank you again for bringing this to our attention.
Jennifer Edwards
Director of Member Services and Development
American College of Preventive Medicine
3/3
9/
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 09:59 AM
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1. Recommend
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david_vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 10:31 AM
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2. The gastongop.org link now brings up a 404 error
"page not found"
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 10:38 AM
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4. Hoping more people will send copies of these emails to newsmedia outlets.
Especially in NC.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 10:38 AM
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3. KNR!!!
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 10:43 AM
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5. It appears that Gaston GOP has pulled the page
Not so elegantly at that:
You 404’d it. Gnarly, dude.

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Hit the “back” button on your browser. It’s perfect for situations like this!
Head on over to the home page.
Punt.



One might think that they would have a better handle on the tech side of things and the capability to edit a page or have a replacement page. One would be wrong.

First, *I* didn't 404 anything, they yanked the page, but it is typical GOP strategy to fuck something up and then blame the person they screwed for the problem.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 10:58 AM
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6. hope they have a screenshot of the original page
.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:05 AM
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7. Here's the cached version
Edited on Fri Sep-30-11 11:11 AM by blogslut
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:09 AM
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9. Wonder how many other credentials he lied about and exaggerated?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:14 AM
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12. He makes the same claim about being an ACPM Fellow
...on his campaign site:

http://jimforrester.net/about.htm
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:12 AM
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11. His bio is still up and it still claims that he's a Fellow of the ACPM
http://www.jimforrester.net/about.htm

The above link takes you to his full bio. I would like people to check on his other claims, because in my experience, a person who pads one item on his c.v. tends to pad more.

The brief bio on the front page now states that Forrester is a former Fellow of the ACPM. http://www.jimforrester.net/
I doubt that. I'd like to see proof that he ever was.



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SteveG Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:29 AM
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16. The page is still there
here is a link to it. http://www.gastongop.org/james-forrester/

Here is what it says

About Sen. Forrester

Senator James S. Forrester, M.D. is an eleventh term member of the Senate of North Carolina and a retired Brigadier General with the USAF and the NC Air National Guard. A Fellow of the American Academy of Family Physicians and a Fellow of the American College of Preventive Medicine, he is an Associate Fellow of the Aerospace Medical Association and a member of the Christian Medical and Dental Society.

He received his B.S. from Wake Forest University and his MD from Wake Forest University School of Medicine (formally Bowman Grey School of Medicine). He interned at N.C. Baptist Hospital and later completed a Master of Public Health and UNC Chapel Hill. He is also a graduate of the Air War College and is Board Certified in Preventive Medicine.


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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 01:15 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. Thanks
It appears the link in the OP left out the hyphen.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:07 AM
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8. Bwaah
Isn't that what the Good Book calls, I dunno, LYING?!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:10 AM
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10. And since he lied about THIS, he's probably lied about much more over the years.
.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:15 AM
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13. for instance, is he currently board certified?
I would be very surprised if a person of his age - who has been a state legislator for ten terms (that's 20 years) - has bothered to maintain his board certification. Yet he claims to be board certified. I wonder.

Forrester uses his medical expertise as credibility in claiming that gay people die 20 years earlier than everybody else and other outrageous lies.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:25 AM
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14. That is why this story matters so much - Forrester used those 'creds' to lie about gays
during the debate over anti-gay legislation.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 02:01 PM
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20. on NC equality FB page, it's reported that Forrester hasn't been a member of AMA or AsMa since 2005
As suspected.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:29 AM
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15. No mention of being an ACPM Fellow on this page
Dedicated to "Distinguished Citizens of Stanley, NC":

http://www.brevardstation.com/jamesforrester.html

If you are using Firefox and right-click on that page and choose "View Page Info", you'll see in the box that pops up that the page was last modified in August of 2010. If Forrester is now a "former" ACPM fellow then he would have had to have been appointed, served and then stepped down - all within the space of a year.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:44 AM
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18. So he fabricated the credential specifically FOR the anti-gay legislation debate.
What an a-hole.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-11 11:32 AM
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17. Page is still up. Click around and it's there.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-11 02:44 PM
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21. k&r n/t
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