Do you consider TPing someone's house a major crime?

[digonswine]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x465054

[hlthe2b]

1. Sounds like they are trying to bring a bit of common sense...

to the gun-toters playing vigilante at every turn.

No, of course this is a prank. At most a misdemeanor. I'm very glad to see the police stand up to the armed bullies.

[digonswine]

3. I would be SERIOUSLY pissed-

if someone held my kid like this. I have no kids--and of course-MY kids would NEVER do anything like that anyway!

[digonswine]

9. I tend to stick up for the gun-toters-

in theory, at least. I am sure that the few posters speak for very few in the gun community. Anyone who is serious about gun-ownership would only see those actions as irresponsible and immature.

[hlthe2b]

14. there are a couple of very depraved comments in the other thread...

Responsible gun ownership is one thing. Advocating playing Rambo at the drop of the hat-- on a bunch of teenaged girls-- underscores the reason why not everyone should have guns.

[digonswine]

15. Thank you--

this gives gun-owners a bad name.

[MADem]

2. That was the verdict on SOUTH PARK a few episodes back!

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s07e03-toilet-paper

[digonswine]

4. Missed that one.

[MADem]

12. It was funny. But to answer your question, I don't think it is a major crime.

I think it is a youthful prank, and if they do it on a clear, dry day, well, with the price of toilet paper nowadays, if you can get most of it off the house/trees in decent shape, you'll save a few dollars from your buttwipe budget! You can always lie, and tell your guests that the cat got the roll, that's why it's all spun out in a big basket in the crapper....of course, if you don't have a cat, you may have to come clean as regards your source...!!!

Misdemeanor offense, go and sin no more, if the judge doesn't see the person for three to six months, the charges disappear.

As for the gun toters? They should get parole and fines, maybe be required to go to a gun safety course or something.

[digonswine]

18. Up here--

it means that you are popular and liked w/in the school community if you get TP'ed. People feel bad if they are not TP'ed. I don't know the proper punishment for the toters. Nothing major, I guess. But at the same time, people who think they can control behaviors they do not like in that way scare me. They are probably fucked up in some way. Would you do that? Could you justify it in your mind? I would guess that people who WOULD do it do not ask themselves if it is justified-and these are the ones that scare me.

[MADem]

20. If TP ing was a compliment in their neck of the woods, I'd wonder if the

gun-toters had unresolved issues from their high school years...perhaps no one loved them enough to give them the "treatment?" Maybe they got rotten eggs instead?

Sheesh, it's like "The Language of Flowers" I guess!! TP is love, flaming bags of shit on the front mat, not so much? Nyuck, nyuck.

I do not come from a TP culture. I don't think I'd hold anyone at gunpoint for that sort of 'crime,' though--I'd be a frugal bastard and reduce/reuse/recycle the stuff that wasn't messed up, though!

[uppityperson]

5. no

[Bladian]

6. I think it's fucking stupid.

But not a crime. My girlfriend's high school aged sister and her friends TP each other's houses. I'll go to their house and it will be all over the lawn and they'll be laughing about it. I'd be pissed if someone did that. I don't to be forced to pick all that shit up.

Sorry. As you can tell, it makes me angry.

[digonswine]

8. I was angry, too-

when they did it to me. But my feelings have shit to do with it-I see you agree. This crap is all over the lawn for a bit. Where I come from-it is common form to do this. They tend to TP a house of those they like the most! I'm not saying it makes sense or is totally awesome-but-it is quite harmless.

[notadmblnd]

21. You know, I was TP'ed once.

I didn't mind cleaning it up. When I bent over to pick some of it up off the ground, I found a ten dollar bill.:shrug:

[Jamastiene]

29. You made more off your prank than I did mine.

I was waiting to cross the road to check the mail. Some loud teenagers came by and threw 4 pennies and 2 nickels at me. After saying, Ouch! You teenagers get off my lawn!" I picked them up and kept them all. It hurt like hell though. They nailed me.

[notadmblnd]

30. that was funny. Mine was just laying on the ground

I just amused at the time, who ever it was- loosing their money.

[postulater]

7. One word - Guantanamo Bay.

[digonswine]

10. It's the only way.

[safeinOhio]

11. good reason to exercise your 2nd Amendment rights......

.....for those searching for a reason to..................:sarcasm:

[Major Nikon]

13. How nutty do you have to be to try and defend that type of behavior?

Makes me think that if someone shot a graffiti artist tagging their fence you'd have people jumping over themselves branding the shooter as a hero.

[digonswine]

17. It is not the same thing--

not that I disagree--tagging is a bit permanent. It is a degree beyond TPing. I would, however, agree that a citizen holding them at gunpoint would be a bit suspect. Again--I would assume that someone holding me at gunpoint means to use that gun if I meant to get away. Tagging is not a capital crime.

[Major Nikon]

24. OK, fill in the minor misdemeanor of your own choosing

The point still holds. Pulling a gun on someone and holding them against their will for a very minor offense is nutbaggery of the 1st degree and defending that behavior is just as nutty.

[razorman]

16. If it's my house, it is a capital crime.

[digonswine]

19. I will give you the credit and assume you are kidding.

[tnlefty]

22. No.

Just no. It's a prank not a crime.

[johnaries]

23. I actually know a pretty funny story about TPing a house.....

told to our class by our 12th grade AP English teacher.
Mrs. Haynes - probably the most difficult teacher at our school. She was also the most hated and the most beloved. Everyone worked harder outside of her class than for any other, but the hour in her class was pure magic. She gave an automatic F for comma splices, and I can't say how many A/F's I got - A for content, F for grammar because of a comma splice. But, I can't say how much it meant to each of us when we finally "got it" and Mrs. Haynes would announce to the whole class "Mr. Anderson has Arrived!".

She was also good at inspiring us. For instance, when we studied the Canterbury Tales she read the first few lines to us in the original Gaelic - which freaked us all out! Then she warned us NOT to read the Miller's Tale, because it was obscene and the School Board said she could not reccomend it, so whatever you do, DON'T read it! (but it's good!). I read it in all of it's crudity, and I have never laughed so hard in my life! Although it was long in development, at the end I had to keep putting it down to laugh, and then reading the next 2 lines and putting it down to finish laughing, and so on.

I managed to test out of 5 of 6 quarters of English in college based on my ACT scores, and I credit that woman.

Back to the TP story:
Her husband was a Metro Nashville Police officer. They went to see a movie one night, and upon their return they found that their house had been TP'd. Since it was late, they decided to wait until the next day to "deal" with it. While they were in bed, they heard a car driving down the road "honking the horn" and screaming - as she said "criminals returning to the scene of the crime." Her hubby jumped out of the bed, as she said "you've caught someone, haven't you?"

Her hubby in his Metro Police car pulled over the partiers, and made them clean up the TP job. During the process, he found out that the main instigator (Denny Boguskie was his name) had already gone home. So, he worked a deal.

The entire group went back to Mrs. Haynes house to repeat the TP incident. Denny led the group proudly, with multiple rolls on each arm.

Once they all got onto the property and the first roll was thrown (by Denny, of course), spotlights from the top of the house illuminated the entire yard! Mr. Haynes and an untold number of his fellow officers began firing automatic weapons! They were firing blanks, but since everyone else was in on it they would fall down pretending to be dead!

Denny was found 2 days later, hiding in a ditch.

Too much? If you knew Denny, naw!

[LWolf]

25. I think there is a reason that I like having a fence, with a lock,

around the front as well as the back.

Is vandalism a "major crime?" Whether minor or major, I'd want them to face some consequences.

[seabeyond]

26. the kids feel loved if their house is tp'ed. my son went out with hubby in the morning to take down

tp and had a huge smile on his face trying to figure out who and when.

they have done it. they only do it to people they like. they chalk, too. but can only put nice stuff. and the many times son has been chalked he feels good.

anything beyond that can be considered vandalism. and no ugly
i also tell them to keep it low so it is easy to get off in the morning.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

31. In our high school they did it to the football team players on Homecoming.

I knew it was coming when one of the cheerleaders needed my address for "something"

[seabeyond]

32. bah hahaha. kids think they are so sneaky. that is funny. nt

[pipi_k]

27. Not a major crime. In my town each year..

the morning after Halloween, a trip into the center of town will reveal dozens of trees festooned with streams of TP.

Around here, it's like a tradition, and for a couple of days our town looks rather festive.

[Jamastiene]

28. It is an annoyance, for sure.

I think considering my experience with TP in my yard, I'd rather be TP'ed with clean unused TP. My neighbor's sewage pipe runs through my yard to hook up to the city's sewage system. His pipes were old 1920s terra cotta pipes. They busted. That was an unpleasant experience that lasted 2 days. I posted about it on here somewhere.

Of course, I'd rather not see TP wasted for TP'ing someone's house at all, unless it is Scott TP. Sandpaper would be better than Scott TP. :hide:

[HuckleB]

33. Yes, let's work hard to stop meaningless teenage pranks!

Let's make sure they have to find something more dangerous to do!

:woohoo: