Canadian border fence pondered by U.S.

[alp227]

Source: The Canadian Press

The United States is looking at building fences along the border with Canada to help keep out terrorists and other criminals.

The U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency has proposed the use of "fencing and other barriers" on the 49th parallel to manage "trouble spots where passage of cross-border violators is difficult to control."

The border service is also pondering options including a beefed-up technological presence through increased use of radar, sensors, cameras, drones and vehicle scanners. In addition, it might continue to improve or expand customs facilities at ports of entry.

The agency considered but ruled out the possibility of hiring "significantly more" U.S. Border Patrol agents to increase the rate of inspections, noting staffing has already risen in recent years.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/09/29/fence-border-canada.html

[CopingBarker]

1. I'm sure all the wildlife along the 49th will be just thrilled with this idea

Seriously though, way back in the day Candian border was the main territory of the US Border Patrol. Mexico was the backwater.

[Puzzler]

2. Great... I'll keep all of the American guns from coming into Canada

[quakerboy]

8. Just like it keeps them out of Mexico?

[sinkingfeeling]

3. Oh, give it up! I'm so sick about having freedom destroyed in the name of 'safety' that I can't

stand it!

[no_hypocrisy]

4. To slow down the steady stream of Americans looking for socialized medical care?

[Curmudgeoness]

5. We should save our money. Last I heard, Canada was talking about a fence.

Let them put it up. Your neighbor's fence still works, at much less cost.

Then again, who believes all this shit about fences.

[pampango]

7. "Then again, who believes all this shit about fences." - The French and Germans used to.

Now they get along just fine without any.

[polly7]

13. I haven't heard that anywhere other than in satire.

http://www.borowitzreport.com/2011/09/22/canada-to-build-twentyfoot-fence-if-perry-elected/

[iverglas]

16. I hadn't even heard that ...

but I'm glad you mentioned it. ;)

Mr. McLarrity said that Canadian border officials were alarmed by the volume of panicky comments regarding Americans’ migratory plans in the event of a Perry win posted on websites ranging from National Public Radio to Huffington Post.

“We are taking this threat very seriously,” he said. “We will electrify the fence if necessary.”

... At a campaign stop in Florida today, Gov. Perry addressed the prospect of an electrified fence being erected on the United States’ northern border.

“My position on electrocution is a matter of public record,” he said. “I’m for it.”

[Javaman]

6. How completely far we have fallen down the fear rabbit hole.

we are a sad people.

[Blue Meany]

9. More likely to keep Americans from escaping...n/t

[BetsysGhost]

12. agree

[glinda]

15. agree

[City Lights]

17. My first thought. eom

[stockholmer]

10. the fences are to eventually keep Americans IN, not foreigners out

The trillions in foreign debt (remember they are keep additional trillions, ie Fannie, Freddie, etc. in debt off the books via off-shore holding corporations) that the US government and the Federal Reserve have racked up is pledged upon the American citizens' collective heads. They pledge, YOU owe, and you will pay, one way or another. To pay this off, you cannot have the chattel debt slaves wandering off the plantation.

[dtexdem]

11. How about up and down the east and west coasts, too -- and across the Gulf coast?

After all, thousands of terrorists could just swim in and land on the beaches. And couldn't we build a dome over the entire continental U.S., to stop terrorists from gliding or parachuting in?

And maybe we should start building all our government buildings, cities, factories, military bases, and so on underground, so they're not exposed on the surface of the earth -- and if we ended strip mining, we wouldn't have to worry further, because then all our mines would be built underground, already. Of course, we'd then have to put our highways and railway underground. Air routes, and even airports, wouldn't be so convenient to locate underground; but maybe we could arrange to escort every airline flight with a fighter jet -- to either protect it from attack or shoot it down if it were hijacked.

Sure, it might cost a lot -- but, hey, isn't total security worth it?

;-)

[iverglas]

14. good luck to them

http://www.canada.com/story_print.html?id=1ca00b6d-3ff2-4d4d-aaee-0d3d7c029aa7&sponsor=

February 3, 2010

Abbotsford's latest homicide victim, Tyler Dziwak, was identified in court documents this week as a drug trafficker who was an associate of convicted killer Dennis Karbovanec back in 2005.

And another victim of a targeted hit, Alfred Walcott, was also named in the document as being a drug trade associate of Karbovanec, Dziwak and Jamie Bacon.

... And he said Yordanov was associated with Dustin Haugen, a helicopter pot smuggler who used a landing pad leased by Jon Bacon.

"In 2001, Yordanov and three other men were charged in connection with a drug investigation which involved exportation of large quantities of marijuana across the Canada-U. S. border, although the charges were ultimately stayed."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2006/07/14/bc-pot-tunnel.html

July 14, 2006

Three men from B.C. who were arrested in Washington state last summer following the discovery of a pot-smuggling tunnel under the Canada-U.S. border in the Fraser Valley have been sentenced to nine years in prison.

... They were arrested in July 2005 by U.S. authorities following an extensive investigation of their sophisticated 110-metre cross-border tunnel.

The 1½-metre high, one-metre-wide tunnel ran under the 49th parallel from a Quonset hut in Langley to an abandoned house 90 metres south of the border in Washington state.

Police installed cameras and microphones in the house, allowing them to watch the three Canadians carry hockey bags and garbage bags full of pot through the tunnel.

Canada-US / US-Canada drug smuggling isn't generally a matter of somebody taking a stroll across the border.

But heck, I can't see anybody here caring much. It'll keep our pot out of the US and might just cut down on some of the heroin and cocaine and guns coming into Canada. I think we'd win, if so.

Won't somebody gives us a great big break, though -- "terrorists and other criminals"?

Terrorists. Yeah, Canada's just full of 'em, and they make regular breaks across the border.


Here's how to really do it:

Going Off The Rails On The Swayzie Train

start at about 12:00 if you're impatient (or don't get it ;) )

[unionworks]

18. hint hint

The fence isn't to keep people out. It's to keep us in.

[struggle4progress]

19. See 76 FR 57751 published Friday, September 16, 2011 for Oct public meetings on PEIS

available as pdf here:

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/search/showcitation.action