Warren drops out of MA Senate race

[MADem]

No, not Elizabeth....Setti.

He announced this morning.

[Scuba]

1. That was mean!

[hlthe2b]

9. Geebus.. get the word out before a line of DUers go over the edge...

:spank: :spank: :spank:

[MADem]

13. People who want to see Elizabeth Warren in the Senate do need to get to the edge,

because she first, has to get through a primary, and second, get past the Nekkid Senator.

Complacency is the biggest danger, here. I've seen a lot of people with the attitude that this is a "done deal." It is NOT. Yes, she has national backing and some good money donors, but she has work to do--like getting past a field of local primary candidates. So, if people get a little discombobulated, that's a good thing. It'll keep 'em on their game.

To be clear, I support EW in this contest.

[hlthe2b]

18. Yes...

point taken...;)

[mdmc]

2. terrible

[MADem]

17. No, not terrible--one down, five to go. There are still other candidates

in the race, and some of them are locally popular.

[ingac70]

You made my stomach drop!

So mean.

[MADem]

20. Good. Now send EW a donation. She has five primary opponents,

and at least two of them are NOT pushovers.

Do not assume she will win the primary. She has work to do.

[Whisp]

3. grrrr

Lol!

[Ikonoklast]

4. Please punch yourself in the nose.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

[MADem]

15. Nope, not gonna do that.. Send her a donation, why don't you?

She still has a primary to get through. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g4gMpmRzk-seZ_IjLcT5KSkOWHFw?docId=bc5d64c732034ae893a56ad643bcc0d4

Other Democrats running for the seat held by Republican Scott Brown include City Year youth program co-founder Alan Khazei, immigration attorney Marisa DeFranco, state Rep. Tom Conroy, Newton resident Herb Robinson and Robert Massie.

[AndyTiedye]

5. Unkicked and Unrecommended

That wasn't nice.

[MADem]

7. People need to understand that she's not the ONLY CANDIDATE

There are five others she has to get past.

Don't count those chickens before they are hatched.

FWIW, I support EW in the primary, but before she got in, Setti was my pick.

[watercolors]

6. Nasty!!

[meegbear]

8. Oh SNAP!

[Ship of Fools]

10. I was just about to start balling ...

[MADem]

14. Send her a donation instead--she still has a primary to get through. NT

[Ship of Fools]

39. Already did. Thanks!

[MADem]

40. Well done!

:thumbsup:

[gkhouston]

21. And now we're devolving into a sex thread.

It's an improvement.

[MADem]

23. What a sixties reference....! nt

[Odin2005]

11. You are a horrible person!

:rofl:

[MADem]

16. I'm just trying to wake up the complacent. People think she's the Democratic candidate, and she is

NOT. She is one of FIVE vying for the seat, and some of the candidates have more "local" face than she does.

This is not a done deal. From a distance, some think it is, though. Bob Massie just got the endorsement of the Mayor of Slummerville....and he's not unpopular.

[RaleighNCDUer]

12. Sneaky gut punch. nt

[MADem]

I want to make people nervous. Some people think she's the nominee for our party.

She's not.

She has to get past Bob Massie, Alan Khazei, Tom Conroy and a couple of others.

[RaleighNCDUer]

25. Hey, I'm for ANYBODY who can re-claim Kennedy's seat -

the thought of Warren dropping out this early was what disturbed me (as you intended).

:hi:

[MADem]

27. Remember Joe Trippi? He's running Bob Massie's campaign.

Guess where Massie is today? He's out in rural western MA, LISTENING.

This is not a done deal for EW--not even close. She's running against Superman (cured of hemophelia, HIV, hepatitis...he's a walking miracle...plus, he's an Episcopal priest).

She has work to do.

[Zorra]

19. I think we need to step outside for a little "talk", MADem -

rickrolling innocent DUers has severe consequences.

[MADem]

22. I'm not rickrolling--I'm shaking 'em up. And it is NEEDED.

Everywhere I look on this board, people who do not live in MA seem to think that EW is the "nominee" to run against Brown. That is not anywhere near the truth. She has to get past five other candidates, and two of them (at least) are going to give her some serious trouble.

Bob Massie has not been sitting on his ass. He's on the move. Get a load of his website/endorsements:

http://www.bobmassie.org/

Tip O'Neill said it, and he is right--all politics is local. You can't sit on your laurels. People on DU are making an uninformed assumption that she's a shoe-in, and that's just not true. She has some major work to do. She is not KNOWN here. This is not going to be easy.

[Zorra]

49. OK. I'll put the sword away. Donate to Elizabeth Warren here:

(I already donated to Elizabeth's campaign via Progressives United-ActBlue, and intend to donate again)

https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/progressives4warren

[MADem]

50. Bravissima! nt

[markpkessinger]

24. Careful. Them's fightin' words! n/t

[MADem]

29. Send EW a donation--she still has some significant local competiton. NT

[DFW]

26. Ha! You didn't fool me for a second.

My only question was whether this was from the Onion or a DU prank! ;-)

[MADem]

28. It's true, though--Setti Warren, the popular mayor, dropped out today.

He wasn't polling well enough to stay in, and the money wasn't there.

There are five other candidates, and two of them are what I would call formidable.

Don't think this nom belongs to EW--she is going to have to work for it.

[DFW]

32. I'm sure she will

It was the implied part about EW dropping out that I didn't fall for.

Actually, I'm heartened that there is some real competition for this nomination. It shows that the Mass. Democrats are
now treating this Senate seat as one they are seriously willing to fight for.

[MADem]

34. Go look at Bob Massie's website. He's been working for the past year.

He's REAL competition. He has a great story, a great profile, and lots of friends.

EW is not going to win this just by having moneyed friends on a national level. She has to "get local" or she will be fucked. People need to truly understand this--she is late to the party. If I got a few people's balls in an uproar, that's good--people need to be shook up.

There wasn't anything at all implied by me--more people in Massachusetts probably recognize Setti Warren by face and name than they do EW. That's not a slam against her, that is just the truth. For those who DO recognize her, and they are growing by the day, that's great, but she cannot sit back and expect her national profile to carry her. She knows this, but her supporters need to understand it as well.

[DFW]

51. I will do that

I remain encouraged that such qualified people are vying for this nomination. It says that everyone expects Scott Brown
to be history after the election, or else they wouldn't be trying so hard for the nomination.

For the record, I don't live in Mass, and Texas politics is a relative basket case by comparison, but I take my summer
vacations in Massachusetts every year, and do care about what happens there.

[MADem]

52. Alan Khazei (the guy who came up with City Year) got in last April

He's been raising money since then. He's another one who is ahead of her re: on-the-ground organization. http://www.alankhazei.com/splash

She can catch up, though--it's just not going to be a foregone conclusion.

MA is way nicer than TX in the summer. If you're anywhere near Cape Cod, that's pretty close to paradise!

[DFW]

53. try Truro!

We travel from Germany to spend 3 weeks in Truro (and Wellfleet and Provincetown) every year.

Even met Rachel Maddow at the P-town airport 2 months ago!

[MADem]

54. The beaches there are beautiful! The National Seashore is a national treasure! nt

[DFW]

60. That's why we take the trek

We consider Long Nook to be one of the most beautiful beaches in all of North America!

We love the people, too. I always sit in with the local (VERY local) band at one of the taverns on Friday nights
in Wellfleet when I'm there.

[Kat45]

30. I knew who you were talking about.

I'm glad he dropped out because I wasn't comfortable with having two people with the same last name on the ballot; it added a potential for someone unintentionally marking the wrong spot.

I didn't know that Joe Trippi was involved with the Massie campaign. Is that Curtatone backing him as well? Interesting. He spoke to my Democratic Town Committee earlier in the year. He has a very compelling story, the kind of story people often respond to. Many of the candidates spoke to our committee; I did like all of them but nobody stood out to me. But I did get excited when I heard that Elizabeth Warren's running. I met some folks working on her campaign, put my name on an email list to get information, and I hope to volunteer. I also told them about DU and that a lot of people here love Elizabeth Warren. (I'm always amazed at how many people, including political folks, are unaware of DU.)

[MADem]

31. See--all politics IS local!!

Yes, Trippi is running Massie's campaign, and Curtatone has formally endorsed him. AND he has been on the move, making campaign stops, shaking hands, organizing, for at least eight months if not longer. He is a formidable candidate with, as you note, a compelling story. Some people might think he was "anointed" or "saved" to do good in the Senate. He's not a bad guy, certainly, but he is serious, significant competition for EW. People who aren't from MA (or even NH, RI, the border states that get channels in the Boston market) have the idea that no one else is running, and that it will be a cakewalk for EW, and nothing could be further from the truth.

She has a long road ahead. She needs all the support she can muster.

[Kat45]

42. If I'm remembering correctly, I think Massie lives in Somerville

I remember talking to one of the candidates and finding that he lived on a street in Somerville that I used to live on. I think it was Massie. I wonder if that's how Curtatone hooked up with him?

[MADem]

43. He's from the Winter Hill neighborhood-Massie has a pretty fair profile, too. He's got a

lot of "noble public service" going for himself, to say nothing of overcoming personal medical adversity in a big way, to the point where if he were Catholic, it would be certified as a frigging miracle by the Vatican. Oh, and he's an Episcopal priest, too!

He has a strong resume and he's liked. Talk about an embarrassment of riches in the Bay State this time around...!

Here's an interview he gave back in Jan, right after he announced, with a pic--I'll bet he's the guy you met:

http://somerville.patch.com/articles/meet-somervilles-bob-massie-challenger-for-browns-senate-seat

[Kat45]

46. I know I met him, I was just trying to remember if he was the one who lived in Somerville.

And he is. It was kind of funny because when we were talking, found out that I used to live on the street where he lives. (I met several of the candidates because we'd have one come to speak at our DTC meeting each month.)

I liked him all right but wasn't necessarily moved toward his candidacy, though I'm not certain why.

[librechik]

33. heart attack!

:evilfrown:

[MADem]

35. Send EW a donation! nt

[Bucky]

36. Elizabeth Warren has roots in Oklahoma and Texas. This makes me proud.

Proud enough to donate.

[MADem]

37. Yay! nt

[Brigid]

38. Cruelty, thy name is MADem.

:spank:

[MADem]

41. You will remember the subtext of this thread, I do hope?

Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind. I hope you and anyone else who wants to see EW sitting in Ted's chair will transmit some of the urgency I've tried to communicate in this thread.

Remember how smug and sure of ourselves we were about a Gore Presidency? Who ever thought it could close enough to steal? That Wee Cowboy was a MORON!!!!!!!

EW needs to slog through a hard primary with a couple of WINNERS competing for the seat--and by winners, I mean QUALITY candidates, not snark-winners. We know how all politics is local, these guys have been on the ground for quite some time, raising money, awareness and developing friendships. Joe Friken Trippi, Howard Dean's campaign wizard, tanned, rested and ready, is running Massie's campaign--and it is very polished and forward moving.

This is not going to be a stroll to the nom for EW. She's going to have to claw, push, and do more/better/faster. She's going to need some help. People who support her need to understand that, and understand that it's not an anointment.

My goal is to jolt a few people to attention, I hope I've done that.

[BigDemVoter]

44. You scared the SHIT out of me!

[MADem]

45. Good....did you read the whole thread? I'm trying to jolt the national supporters

of EW. I don't want people saying "Waaah....what happened?" This is not a slam-dunk for her, even with the recusal of Setti Warren from the race.

She has serious primary competition from local talent and a lot of catching up to do. She can do it, but help would not be amiss!!

[Hoosier Daddy]

47. Misleading Headline

Do you work for HuffPo?

[MADem]

48. Not if you're from Massachusetts, it isn't!

Setti Warren was in the race FIRST, way before EW even started to explore a run. He's a well-known MA Mayor with a high local profile, very charming, handsome and dynamic.

The headline is only misleading to out-of-staters...and they're the ones, who, if they want EW in Ted's seat, need to chip in and make a donation to her candidacy so she can play catch-up. She is WAY behind at least two of the five primary candidates, who have both name recognition and a following.

[joeybee12]

55. Evil!

I actually saw this and my first thought was he dropped out because he had the same last name and figured anyone who actually wanted to vote for him would vote for Elizabeth thinking they were the same, and he figured, why bother?

[MADem]

56. Not evil...good! Read the whole thread!

He is actually the "better known" Warren in MA. What he doesn't have is the cash base. He's a mayor of a very nice town (the place that gave Fig Newtons their name) and he's liked...he's just not liked enough, and he knows damn well that it would be a waste of his time to keep at it. The name confusion was probably just one more "Awwwww, shit" aspect for him.

There are five candidates in addition to EW running, still. Two of them I regard as formidable, so she has some catching up to do.

[Exultant Democracy]

57. You are the WORST! :-) you got me good.

[MADem]

58. Send a few bucks to EW--we want her to win! nt

[Exultant Democracy]

59. I'll be doing a lot more then that if I have my way.

I have a municipal election that I'm working on right now and I usually head to a swing state for the big elections but I want to stay on the east coast this year. Hopefully I find a way to help put on either Warren, Murphy or Lewis' campaign in that order. It used to e you had to go to a swing state to get any good action but the rules changed with citizens united and Scott Brown, and we have to hold the North East and win back that seat if we are going to stand a chance.

[MADem]

61. Well, you are my HERO, then! nt