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markpkessinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 08:01 AM
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Why so quiet, Rachel?
I am a big fan of Rachel Maddow, so I am at a bit of a loss to explain her comparative silence concerning the police abuse of protesters at the Occupy Wall Street protests. Have her corporate bosses decided that only one of their hosts (O'Donnell) may discuss the issue? It just seems odd to me that here is an issue that would seem to fit in perfectly with the kind of reporting and editorializing that has made her so popular, yet she's hardly had a word to say about it all week. What gives?
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 08:10 AM
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1. Comcast. n/t
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piratefish08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 08:13 AM
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2. so what now separates MSNBC from FOX? corporations creating the message.
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 08:36 AM
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4. +1
Don't blame Rachel. You are so right it is the corporation. Big media needs to be broken up.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 09:53 AM
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16. Uh, Lawrence ODonnell is speaking very STRONGLY and continuously against NYPD & for OWS
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 08:15 AM
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3. Quite frankly, I have an even bigger problem with Schultz. This guy
constantly invokes the excesses of Wall Street in every one of those promo spots he does for his show, and literally hasn't uttered a word about them since they began. I have my own theories, but don't necessarily want to get into that right now.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 09:12 AM
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5. Maybe someone can email Ed about the Wall Street protests...
His E-mail during the show is ed@edschultzshow.com
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 09:36 AM
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9. Remember there are 2 branches to the Labor family tree + Labor IS, and justly so, being courted
right now, because the downward international pressure on American wages IS THE KEY to sooooooooooo much else.

Solidarity with U.S. Labor!!!
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MrsBrady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 09:45 AM
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12. you must be watching a different show than me n/t
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 10:19 AM
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22. To be honest, his lack of discussion of this during his daily radio show
has turned me off to the point that I'm not watching much of his TV show these days, but I do always watch the opening segment where he provides a "tease" of that night's material, and Occupy Wall Street never seems to get mentioned there.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 09:21 AM
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6. Could it be that since Lawrence and Ed have been spending
time and giving it good coverage, she thinks it might
just be repetive.

Important Story from Rachel.

There was a serious gas line explosion in Kentucky. This
is the second explosion in a relativley short period of tiem

The Senate in DC is trying to pass a bill promoting Safety
in Relation to Gas Lines -Pipes.

GUESS WHAT. Rand Paul put a "HOLD" on the Safety Legislation.
As you know a Hold, is the means by which a single Senator
can completely blocK Legislation by keeping it from even coming
up for discussion.

He says, he is absolutely against evern the idea of any
new Regulation.

Just in case anyone doubts what kind of America this NEW
REPUBLICAN Party wants. Third World here we come.
When Safety Regualtions are verboten, watch out.

Yes, he has the Legislation on Hold.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 10:01 AM
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19. What I appreciate about Rachel's show
is the fact that she doesn't repeat the same stories that were covered by O'Donnell, Matthews, Sharpton, etc. She often covers stories that no one on television is reporting.

It is a big world, full of many interesting and important stories. I become frustrated with news networks that take only a few stories and run them into the ground. Rachel is like a breath of fresh air.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 10:39 AM
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27. Awesome, Ron Paul is screwing over Kentuckians.
Wonder what his idiot son thinks of that.


The voters in Kentucky are certainly going to be told of it.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 09:33 AM
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7. She is talking about law-enforcement abusing prisoners, which I admire, because prisoners are
, whatever anyone thinks of their status as criminals, not a matter of concern in regards to Justice to most people.

They also cannot come and go as they wish like OWS, so whatever in-justice prisoners experience, anything that is disproportionate to their crimes or their current behavior, is even more un-Just.
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Zax2me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 09:35 AM
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8. Bought and paid.
only answer.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 09:48 AM
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14. That's the only answer if you have concrete empirical proof. There are at least a few hundred other
things that could be going on.

Absolutist "answers" are evidence supporting at least the potential for fascism. They also enslave perception and, hence, problem solving.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 09:57 AM
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18. The fact that someone is a paid PROFESSIONAL doesn't necessarily mean they only speak for
their own good. It just means that they could be speaking only for their own good/benefit and that's something we need always to keep in mind, but there ARE other ways that they CAN speak if they are smart enough to do it.
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 09:37 AM
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10. She was also "quiet" when Keith was removed for MSNBC.n/t
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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 09:42 AM
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11. Rachel and Ed are obviously muzzled.
On the bright side, Lawrence O'Donnell did a kick-ass piece with Michael Moore last night! I was cheering from my kitchen!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 09:46 AM
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13. Cenk got thrown out because he did not toe the Establishment line, Rachel...
...does not want to end up in the same boat.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 09:51 AM
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15. Especially since she's talking about the issue of police brutality anyway, just within a different
milieu.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 09:56 AM
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17. Lawrence covers it extensively. Rachel picks up related issues + runs w them.
'In tonight's opening segment about the flaws in our criminal justice system, Rachel explained why insisting on justice is a matter of more principled politics. It takes the will of human values and accountability to history to counter the accusation that opponents of injustice are siding with criminals and monsters.

This is politics, but it's politics of a different kind. This is values politics -- about who we are as a country.
...
Because it's not about whether or not you like the person who the guy in the uniform is beating up. What this is about is the fact that the guy in the uniform is us. That is in our name. This is a democracy; government of, by, and for the people.
What Sheriff's deputies did to this visitor (a visitor!) to the L.A. County Jail-- that's us. The death penalty? That's us! Killing Cameron Todd Willingham? That's us.

Above, a new ACLU report confirms deputy-on-inmate brutality in L.A. County jails. More videos are presented in this pdf, and the full report is here (note: a little slow to load, almost 30 page pdf). The KTLA investigation into "the 3000 Boys" begins here and you can follow the in-story navigation to the three more parts in the series.'

http://maddowblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/29/8024947-problems-with-the-justice-system-are-our-problems

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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 10:14 AM
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21. +1. I'd rather have some thoughtful coverage of a related issue
than a repeat of the material the O'Donnell is covering. And I'm not dissing O'Donnell's work--I just like seeing good coverage of an issue extended into the bigger picture.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 10:24 AM
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24. 1+++++++++++++ for rational extension!!! Just about the biggest anemia in M$M dumbing down
the American zeitgeist.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 10:26 AM
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25. ++1
Yes
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 10:02 AM
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20. soon as keith left.... it was all over.
i would except to see thier ratings tank?

dont watch here nearly as much, last night Lawrence was speaking againt MMJ and the 2nd ammendment. who the fuck are these people.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 10:29 AM
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26. The ratings already have dropped
There was a thread the other day about them slipping behind CNN. Hosting one of the GOP debates helped prop them up last month, but their general viewership is declining.

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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 10:19 AM
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23. OMG MSNBC doesn't have zombie programing like FOX
where every single person on the station covers the exact same story with the exact same talking points over and over. I imagine she didn't cover it because her lead in program has made it the signature issue of this week. Her program this week seems focused on complimentary stories to this story which is in general the MO for the two shows for years.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 10:45 AM
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28. what sickened me the past couple of days is seeing
rude christie on almost every network, including Rachel. Inquiring minds want to know is christie running for president or not? Oh, one woman begged him to run because the country just needs a bully, oh, I mean a man like christie. It's like the media is already starting to pick their candidate, and they do pick the candidates.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 11:03 AM
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29. 1+++++ because Christie's aggressive disrespectful BULLSHIT will build ratings.
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