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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 09:57 PM
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Incandescent light bulb bill clears Michigan House committee
And I thought the fucking Teabagger electees were concerned with jobs.


Incandescent light bulb bill clears committee
By Eartha Jane Melzer | 09.28.11 | 10:12 am


Rep. Kenneth B. Horn (R-Frankenmuth) is pro-choice when it comes to light bulbs. Horn, chair of the House Energy and Technology Committee, cosponsored legislation to allow Michigan to make incandescent bulbs despite a federal phase out that begins with a prohibition on 100-watt bulbs next year.

“It’s an issue of choice, and a lot of people like their incandescent light bulbs,” Horn told the Saginaw News as the committee approved the bill Tuesday. “We just think it’s just ridiculous that the federal government is making all these decisions for us.”

He’s dubbed the legislation “the freedom to manufacture bill.” A company could make and sell the bulb only in Michigan, avoiding the ban under federal interstate commerce laws that would prevent the sale of the bulb across the state line in 2012, he said.

Democrats say that the bill is not grounded in reality. “They’re not being made in Michigan, and they’re not likely to be made in Michigan,“ state Rep. Jeff Irwin, (D-Ann Arbor) told the Detroit Free Press. “I’ve got a plant making LED bulbs in my district, and that’s a real project that’s hiring real people doing real work, not fantasy work.”


more...
http://michiganmessenger.com/52786/incandescent-light-bulb-bill-clears-committee
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 10:00 PM
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1. This is the shit they are worried about? F'ing morons. Nt
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 10:03 PM
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2. I guess this is major and jobs are not. No wonder we're so F'en up in this country. n/t
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FrodosPet Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 11:14 PM
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8. Cleanup of a CFL bulb
We need full spectrum affordable LEDs NOW!!! Incandescents are energy wasting fire hazards and CFLs are health hazards.
_______________________________________

http://www.ct.gov/dph/lib/dph/cfl_fact_sheet_final.pdf

If a Compact Fluorescent Light Bulb (CFL) accidentally breaks in the home,
stay calm. It is not an emergency. You can do the clean-up yourself if you
follow the information in this fact sheet.

CFLs contain a small amount of mercury, about the size of a pen point.
Mercury forms a vapor that you can inhale. If a bulb breaks, it needs to be
cleaned up properly to protect everyone in the house.

Before Cleaning Up

1. Keep infants, small children, pregnant women, and pets out of the room where the
bulb broke.

2. If you are pregnant, do not do the clean-up yourself. Find someone to do the clean-up
for you.

3. Turn off forced hot air heat, central air conditioners, and fans.

4. Open windows to allow fresh air in.

5. Leave the room for at least 15 minutes to allow the room to air out before beginning
clean-up. During this time read thru these instructions and gather the supplies you will
need for cleanup.

Before You Go Back To The Area gather the following supplies:

• Disposable gloves
• Flashlight
• Duct tape or other sticky tape
• 2 index cards or stiff pieces of paper
• Zip-lock bags
• Damp paper towels or rags
• Portable window fan (optional)

Clean-Up Steps

Keep people and pets out of the room where the bulb broke. This will prevent them from potentially inhaling mercury vapor and from tracking mercury to other parts of the house on shoes or paws. Infants, small children, and pregnant women are the most susceptible to mercury vapor, so special care should be taken to keep them out of the room.

During the initial clean-up, it is important to avoid vacuuming, sweeping, and using metal dust pans.

Hard Surfaces:
If a CFL breaks on a hard surface like tile, hardwood or linoleum floor, do the following:

1. Close the door to the room being cleaned if possible.

2. Put on disposable gloves.

3. Carefully pick up all large pieces of glass, and put them in a zip-lock bag.

4. Use index cards or stiff pieces of paper to push tiny bits of glass, powder, and other debris
into small piles. Carefully lift each pile and place into a zip-lock bag(s). applicable to carpet/area rug clean-up]

5. Use sticky tape to pat the remaining debris. Try to pick up as much glass and powder as
you can. Replace with new pieces of tape when the stickiness diminishes.

6. Shine a bright flashlight in and around the area to look for glittering bits of glass or
mercury. Pat the area with sticky tape again until you do not see any more glittering with
the flashlight.

7. Put used tape and stiff cards into a zip-lock bag(s).

8. Pat the area with damp paper towels or rags to further clean-up debris. Put the used paper
towels, rags, and gloves in the zip-lock bag with other debris.

9. When you are finished with the clean-up, put the zip-lock bags in an outdoor trashcan
immediately. Getting the waste out of the house right away is an important safety step.

10. Wash your hands and face after the waste has been removed from the house.

11. Continue to ventilate the room for as long as possible (at least several hours). In addition
to opening windows, a portable fan may be placed in a window with the air blowing to
the outside to help exhaust the “dirty air” out of the building.

Do Not Vacuum - Do Not Sweep - Do Not Use Metal Dust Pans
_______________________________________

Soft surface cleanup instructions at the link
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 12:13 AM
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9. I agree with the LED lighting but what is your point with the
CFL clean up regs? I have yet to see anyone follow them.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 10:37 AM
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11. All fluorescent light bulbs contain mercury -- round ones, tubes, U-shaped, etc.
Nobody bothered about special precautions for cleanup or disposal until compact fluorescents came out.
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FrodosPet Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 01:41 PM
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12. That looks like a terrible oversight
Edited on Thu Sep-29-11 01:43 PM by FrodosPet
I know I've tossed quite a few of the tubes in the dumpster to smash them. If I knew then what I know now about them - different story.

We really need to get mercury out of our environment. We need to get rid of incandescents so we can get rid of coal generated electricity. And we need to get rid of flourescents, and get going on affordable LEDs.

(edited for spelling)
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 10:14 PM
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3. What a dim bulb. 100 watts of rhetoric.
I'll take my 13 watt bulbs. For God and country or something like that.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 10:17 PM
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4. I said repeatedly that a ban was a dumbass idea
They should have just slapped $1- or $2-a-bulb tax on all domestic incandescents, and set aside that money to pay for green energy projects.

The diehards get their precious hot tungsten filaments, the specialty bulbs are used to rarely that the annual cost is inconsequential, and none of this shit would be eating up "news" time or being flogged by teabagging idiots.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 01:50 PM
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13. Or..... You could get the price on LED's down to a more widely affordable level....
and run an advertising campaign that lays out the amortised costs and savings over the life-span of the bulbs.

But that wouldn't actually piss anyone off, so less fun all around I suppose....
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 10:37 PM
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14. I was reading an article in "Popular Mechanics" about LED lightbulbs...
... and how they compared to incandescent and CFL. Basically, "pretty good and getting better". The current target is to make a 60-watt equivalent bulb, and the holy grail is a 100-watt equivalent.

The scientists they talked to said they anticipated a big price drop in two years or so, too.

That will be pretty sweet.


I got some from Wal-Mart for $5.97 each. They're only a like 100 or 150 lumens, but the light is very pure and they only use 2 watts.

:shrug:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 10:20 PM
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5. Anything that uses more energy
They have their oil and nuclear industries to protect.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 10:21 PM
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6. Perhaps they can start making buggy whips again...
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 10:45 PM
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7. So how many light bulb plants are there in Michigan?
Edited on Wed Sep-28-11 10:45 PM by BiggJawn
I though the last plant in the whole Yoo-Knighted States of Murka closed in Virginia a year ago?

Oh-oh, I get it... This law will convince Generally Defective to move the light bulb plant BACK from Mexico... S'Yeah, Right....
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 12:19 AM
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10. Idiots.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-11 10:41 PM
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15. Yay! FreeDumb Bulbs!!!!
:silly:

Good thing there aren't any serious issues on the docket in Michigan these days, huh?
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