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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 11:27 AM
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GOP poster boy Paul Ryan comes up with a new health plan (vouchers for everyone)
Rep. Paul Ryan has taken it upon himself to finally come up with the "replace" part of the "repeal and replace" mantra the Republicans ran on in 2010, in their campaign against the Affordable Care Act. Speaking at Stanford University's conservative Hoover Institution, the idea guy for the GOP, finally came up with a plan. Ryan didn't reach very far for this once, which seems essentially to just be vouchers for everyone.

House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan says it's time for Republicans to rally around a comprehensive "replacement" to President Barack Obama’s signature health care reform legislation—with the government giving a limited contribution to help Americans get health coverage.
That's the model Ryan wants to apply through Medicare, Medicaid and employer-sponsored health insurance. It's the approach he used earlier this year for Medicare and Medicaid in the House-passed budget, but he now wants to expand it to workplace health insurance by giving people a refundable tax credit to help them buy coverage.

See, the basic problem with our system, Ryan says, is that we just get too damned much health care and—I think this is what he's saying here—aren't paying enough for those services: "At its core, the health care problem is one of inflation, driven by the overutilization of services, dramatic underpayments and massive inefficiency." I'll give him inefficiency in our system, but the 50 milion uninsured Americans (which Ryan apparently doesn't address at all) would take issue with his other premises.

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 11:39 AM
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2. "Im saving up for heart surgery"


Thanks Mr. Ryan!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 11:41 AM
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3. What a weasly little character!
What moron would give him any credibility??
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dembotoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 11:45 AM
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4. those with employer paid healthcare will take a real beating on this
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 12:57 PM
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5. We can't pool our tax dollars for health care, but, we can pool tax dollars for vouchers.
Does everyone get the same size voucher?

If so, then, egad, the rich are paying more and giving it to the poor. Nooooooooooooo!

If not, then, the poor who can't afford treatment or preventive care will just have to die. ... ... Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! Didn't need that guy to be sure.

If so, and the voucher is just not enough to buy the health care they need, then, ...., then, then they die! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! The rich won't have to pay for that person anymore.

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 01:19 PM
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8. and since they don't believe in any regulations
the health insurance industry will raise their rates more, probably beyond the voucher. Now how come health care costs so much in this country, more than other countries that actually have a great health care system? Maybe, too much for profit greedheads--we need a "people over profit" system.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 01:11 PM
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6. It's inefficient and expensive because that's what makes the most money.
The goal of the U.S. health care industries isn't to provide the best health care to everyone for the least amount of money, the goal is to create the maximum possible revenue streams from which to siphon profits, even when it kills people.

Quite a few health industries need to be nationalized and their CEOs thrown in prison.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-11 01:17 PM
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7. The Republican "solution": Jump the Grand Canyon in two leaps
Where you stand for the second jump is entirely up to you! That's freedom, Republican style.
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