Diebold voting machines can be hacked by remote control

[babsbunny]

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/elections/2011/09/27/votinghack/index.html

Exclusive: A laboratory shows how an e-voting machine used by a third of all voters can be easily manipulated
By Brad Friedman

It could be one of the most disturbing e-voting machine hacks to date.

Voting machines used by as many as a quarter of American voters heading to the polls in 2012 can be hacked with just $10.50 in parts and an 8th grade science education, according to computer science and security experts at the Vulnerability Assessment Team at Argonne National Laboratory in Illinois. The experts say the newly developed hack could change voting results while leaving absolutely no trace of the manipulation behind.

"We believe these man-in-the-middle attacks are potentially possible on a wide variety of electronic voting machines," said Roger Johnston, leader of the assessment team "We think we can do similar things on pretty much every electronic voting machine."

[louslobbs]

1. K&R

Lou

[babsbunny]

2. I am sick.....................

watching Rev. Al talkin' about how the Pukes are trying to disenfranchise the voters in 30 something states! My state of Ohio!!!!!

[jaysunb]

3. Do we have any "hackers" on our side >

They hack us...we hack em back. :shrug:

Paper ballots please and counted the old fashioned way...one at a time, no matter how long it takes.

[TBF]

26. That's what I was thinking too - maybe Anonymous could help us out

:shrug:

[orpupilofnature57]

4. A Receipt!!!!if they can kick out millions of lottery tickets daily , accurately

then they can use Our money to assure democracy isn't being hacked, ,cheaper that a bail-out or war.

[think4yourself]

9. I don't know

I wouldn't trust those machines to print out
the real receipt! Glad Brad is still pursuing this
for ALL of us.

[bullimiami]

11. even when we have reciepts or paper ballots, noone ever looks at them.

They dont make any attempt to verify the accuracy of the machine counts.

[Hoosier Daddy]

5. When a company name starts with DIE.....

:(

[msongs]

6. the democratic party is not interested in this sort of thing. nt

[emcguffie]

12. But why?

Does anyone understand why the Democratic Party doesn't want to know anything about this? It has always seemed more than a little bit odd to me.

[ThomCat]

18. That should scare all of us.

Why isn't the democratic party interested in investigating this? :(

[midnight]

7. Thanks for reminding us...I wonder how long we discuss this fraud before we shut it down...

[sam11111]

8. paper ballots, hand counted, precinct level, many eyes, election BOARD (never one sec. of state) , +

cash-free-campaigns.

This last point...cfc's: all media are required to give free space to candidates, in proportion to poll strength but with some extra given to small fringe candidates to "level things a bit".

IIRC this was/is done in Holland. Parties not allowed to spend ANY cash on ads. Ends the problem of PAC's and GOP advantage with billionaire cash.

Also; many eyes..I like having not only our people watch the counting but also foreign observers. Would get us some credibility overseas as "responsible adults".

Pls memorize these 6 points

[annabanana]

15. the holy grail for sure. . . . n/t

[markpkessinger]

21. Absolutely . . ..

. . . Sure, we have to wait longer for results -- but those results are a whole lot harder to manipulate than computer code!

[Matariki]

23. From your mouth to god's ears

I wish elections were run that way. It would be a different country.

[rainy]

10. Is that what happened in the Florida Republican vote? nt

[ThomCat]

19. Regardless of which hack has been used,

Everyplace that the count is different in places where the votes are machine counted, and checked behind closed doors than in other places where votes are hand counted and checked in view of the public, we know that some type of hack has taken place.

Everyplace where the outcome deviates significantly from exit polls, that time tested methodologies that were always accurate before electronic voting, we know that some type of hack has taken place.

[in_cog_ni_to]

13. Like the RW corporate evoting machine developers don't know this?

Of course they do. Bush (Ohio), Feingold, Max Cleland, Bush took the Texas governorship from Ann Richards when she had a 70% approval rating. Is it magic?

How many other upsets were there in 2008 and prior?

http://www.thebiggestsecret.org/forum-en/viewtopic.php?t=1231&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=&sid=1af43d61b06dddaf5ee4b8dfdb3cc849

[sam11111]

16. Globalism's spread helped by this in other e-vote nations?

Hmmmmmmm

[Gregorian]

14. Is this a country or a casino?

It seems pretty clear to me that if our votes aren't certain, we might just not be living in a democracy.

It's not voting. It might as well be entertainment. Cast your wish, and see what turns up.

I think we've been over this before, but isn't there some way we can get a national decree, or mandate? I think the answer is it's a state's right. But hell, this isn't trivial by any means.

[orpupilofnature57]

20. It's almost the' Honor system ' like Greenspan trusting wall street to ..

' POLICE THEMSELVES'

[Divine Discontent]

17. "10.50 in parts and an 8th grade science education" - that rules out 99% of the GOP, so we gotta

keep an eye on their few backers who seem halfway smart... ha! Seriously, isn't this sad?


http://www.zazzle.com/republicans_2012_keeping_millions_out_of_work_bumper_sticker-128002960205017719 http://www.cafepress.com/barackobama12

[shanti]

22. and we've known about the hacking capability

for quite some time, but has anything been done about it? :shrug: whenever the subject is broached, it's like some kind of conspiracy theory! :(

[Enthusiast]

24. What can be done about this? nt

[City Lights]

25. K&R

:mad:

[mod mom]

27. Is there a new report out on this? or is this based on the report from March?

http://www.ne.anl.gov/capabilities/vat/pdfs/election-integrity-invited-talk-2011.pdf

and October 2010:

http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~appel/voting/Johnston-AnalysisOfNJSeals.pdf