Deregulation does not 'create' jobs. It makes things more efficient. More efficient=fewer jobs.

[applegrove]

Discuss. Cause I am not buying that deregulation creates jobs. The GOP say corporations are 'job creators' but not when downsizing and outsourcing and deregulations take place.

[dkf]

1. It sure created a whole lot of financial jobs for a time.

[applegrove]

3. Deregulation guts the mid sized corporations. The big guys get bigger for sure.

But if you look at any industry that has been deregulated there are a few big corporations that have great economies of scale, and a whole lot of tiny companies. I should do more research.

[tridim]

2. It kills a lot of people too

Which I guess means more jobs for more future dead people.

[Chorophyll]

4. How does it make things more efficient?

Definitely agree with you that it doesn't create jobs. It also seems to fuck things up royally.

[applegrove]

5. I mean economic efficiency which means more cost effective sorta.

[TheDebbieDee]

7. Deregulation is more cost efficient because companies

then give pink slips to their staff members that insure compliance.

[Chorophyll]

8. So more efficient for the CEO and shareholders, you mean.

Because the last ten years have sure felt like chaos for everyone who isn't one of those things.

[applegrove]

9. absolutely. Efficiency for the balance sheet only. My point is the corporations should

not be calling themselves 'job creators' while they ask for fewer regulations.

[Matariki]

6. If by "more efficient" you mean more pollution and less workplace safety. n/t

[applegrove]

10. I mean better for the corporations. I think the corporations should just shut up

and let the middle class figure out what sort of world they want to live in.

[aquart]

11. Deregulation doesn't make anything more "efficient."

It makes everything sloppier, lazier, and infinitely more dangerous to eat or use.

[applegrove]

12. I'm talking about economic 'efficiency' which you are correct does not include externalities.

I'm with you. My point is that people who want deregulations should not be calling themselves 'job creators'. The middle of the market always gets gutted when deregulation takes place. Those are good jobs.

[aquart]

16. It isn't "economically efficient" either.

Corporations being allowed to declare a profit while debiting the nation with their expensive mess leads to economic collapse. That ain't efficiency.

[Kennah]

13. If corporations were "job creators" why does corporation X remain while corporation Y goes bust?

Same industry, so subject to the same regulations. It comes down to corporation X makes a product consumers want while corporation Y does not.

It's THE CONSUMERS who are the job creators!

Deregulation can hurt consumer's confidence because they start wondering, "Is this fucking thing going to blow up? Or have lead paint from China for my kid to eat?"

[elleng]

14. Does not create jobs.

Enables consolidation(s) which may be/allegedly result in efficiency; part of such 'efficiency' often is fewer jobs.

[drm604]

15. Of course it doesn't create jobs.

All of the people that ensure compliance with the regulations lose their jobs, but there won't be more demand for the companies' products. So there will be a loss of jobs.

[applegrove]

18. Right on. Even though deregulation has taken place, jobs have been outsourced and downsized,

with a more competative market you used to be able to count on lower prices. Lower prices would lead to more demand. Now there is no demand because the jobs are gone. The whole world economy is going to have to collapse before corporations do what needs to be done...refinance mortgages, etc. Meanwhile the only jobs that look promising are chinese tourist to America jobs, if the government lowers regulation in the form of no longer requiring visas, but even this is dependant on China not going into recession. If the whole world goes into a double dip recession those chinese toursists are going to stay home.

[Javaman]

17. deregulation doesn't make things one iota more "efficient" it makes things more unsafe. nt

[mmonk]

19. The evidence it doesn't is the financial collapse that got rid of so many.

[applegrove]

20. Yes and deregulations has caused the resulting lack of demand because people lost all the wealth

that was in their houses. And all the jobs lost. Yup. All deregulation has done is make a few people rich and many people unemployed:outsourcing (caused by deregulation of trade) downsizing (caused by deregulations) and now lack of demand (caused by deregulation of the banking sector). It is a trifecta!

[mmonk]

21. Yep, sad isn't it?

America's self destruction.

[madokie]

22. I'm not sure that de-regulation makes things more efficient

I don't see the connection there, sorry

On the other hand regulation increases the work force for a lot of reasons such as can't work a person into the ground such as 12 hr days 7 day weeks for pennies. they have to hire more people to do the job.
Me thinks your premise is way off :hi: