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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-11 05:27 PM Original message |
I Ordered Death in Georgia |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-11 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. Are the negative recs from people in favor of the DP? |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-11 05:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I doubt they even read it. n/t |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 08:30 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. I read it and unrecced it. Having sympathy for Thomas Dean Stevens makes me ill. |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 08:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. There's a critical difference between punishment and justice. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 08:53 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I agree that punishment does not equal justice, but punishment is often an element of justice. |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. This article is not about defending the indefensible. |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. How about the two asshats that raped and murdered the Dr's wife |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Not me. |
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dddem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
43. karma |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. Me too. I don't understand why others don't get that. n/t |
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Nordmadr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. I have grown torn over the years for it |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #17 |
35. You would murder to show you're the same as them? |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
36. I could do it too. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 09:35 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. Go to bed now.. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #51 |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
41. We ask people to do difficult things that have enormous consequences all the time |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Agree to disagree. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Yes, I think we at the point of where we will agree to disagree. |
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bigmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. You want to hire someone to murder for you, in certain circumstances. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Hiding a monstrous act? I think not. |
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bigmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Do you think murder, premeditated murder, is not a monstrous act? |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Yes, but I don't classify executions as murder. |
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bigmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 06:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. Your careful parsing of language is the problem, not the solution. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Your snide comments aside, we won't convince each other of changing our positions. |
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HappyMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. I'm with you on this. nt |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. if you are pro death penalty, then ultimately you have a fundamental flaw in your humanity |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Perhaps, but perhaps it is you with the flaw in your humanity. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 07:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
48. No. It makes you an inhuman monster. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 07:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Anti-DP folks usually condemn pro-DP folks for dehumanizing criminals by calling them monsters. |
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Major Nikon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 10:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
59. Amazing how people still use such obvioius tripe these days |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-11 02:46 AM Response to Reply #20 |
64. +1 nt |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. Who expressed sympathy for Stevens? |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 02:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. "after a little frontal-lobe development, they were entirely different people." |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. They take their greatest toll on society as a whole. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I'm not sure why most other countries do not do it. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 03:58 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. You ae confused. The 'recent' moratorium was between 1967 and 1977 |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. As I recall there were changes to the state laws that made it constitutional. |
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Tom Ripley (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. An interesting tidbit about that case is Troy Leon Gregg escaped from the death house... |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. That is interesting. |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
56. Once again, another stupid "Only if we are super duper sure" pro death comment.... |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 09:58 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Degree of certainty has a major role in our justice system whether you like it or not. |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 10:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Because EVERY jury is 100% sure but wrong many times. If the person is dead.... |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I'm not so sure that EVERY jury is 100% sure, only beyond a reasonable doubt. |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 10:53 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Define "certain"! And appeal courts upheld the execution! They were "certain" also! |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. I would define certainty as the absence of any doubt. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-11 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
3. Oh, boo hoo |
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teddy51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-11 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. That was an execellent observation from Allen Ault, and not the first Prison |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-11 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
5. Please sign this pledge to end the death penalty. In Troy's name. |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
6. kick |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
7. I have mixed feelings about the death penalty |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
40. Interesting |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 06:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
46. Why is it necessary? |
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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
8. K&R! |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
12. Democracy Now had recordings of Georgia's death chamber from the '90s. |
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tropicanarose (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
13. Wow....a really powerful piece. We won't ever forget you, Troy. |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
15. Wow. That was excellent. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
25. REC. Thank you for posting this moving and eloquent commentary. nt |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
34. is this the guy who was on Rachel Maddo show last week ? |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. Yes. I think so |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
37. Fuck the death penalty |
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rbnyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
39. Thanks so much for posting this... |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
54. Too late to recommend or I would have been at least 100. |
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beac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 10:03 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. 101. I got here too late too. Powerful article. n/t |
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