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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 12:10 PM
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The 1980s Tylenol poisonings.......Is the official story bogus?

Book pushes new theory on Tylenol poisonings
New book suggests cyanide was put into pills at distribution facility

By Jamie Sotonoff


A new book by a former Johnson & Johnson employee suggests the Tylenol poisonings, which killed seven people in the Chicago area in 1982, took place in the company's production or distribution channels, and says company executives and federal agencies steered the investigation in the wrong direction to avoid liability.

New Jersey resident Scott Bartz, 50, spent the past 3½ years researching his self-published book, “The Tylenol Mafia,” which will be released today.

Johnson & Johnson declined to comment on the book, and in a statement said the allegations have “no merit.”

In recent years, investigators — at least publicly — have focused on “lone madman” suspects like the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski, and extortionist James Lewis. .............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20110926/news/709269947/



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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 12:17 PM
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1. Well, I dunno.
Assembly lines don't move along at a sedate pace.

People forget how stuff used to be packaged. There was no seal on the box, plastic wrap around the bottle cap, vacuum seal on the bottle itself, and, once you get all that shit off, a big wad of cotton!

It wouldn't have been that hard to do it the way the media suggested, but we will probably never know unless someone confesses.

Nowadays, with high quality cameras everywhere, it would probably be harder to pull off that sort of thing.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 12:55 PM
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3. agree, except a big wad of cotton in the top of the bottle was common
Though I don't remember specifically if Tylenol used to use the big wad of cotton.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 01:06 PM
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5. I don't remember either--mainly because I never use the stuff!
If I need a painkiller, I take "an" aspirin. If that doesn't work after a while, I take a second one.

I try to not use too much stuff. I will take a Benadryl if I can't sleep on rare occasion.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 02:32 PM
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12. Yes - I remember when you could pull apart capsules
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 07:55 PM
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18. Yes, and easily, too--it was a simple matter to pull apart, say, CONTAC and
get some of those silly little multicolored beads out of them if you only wanted a half-dose!
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 12:48 PM
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2. Corporations will stop at nothing
to avoid liabiity. This would not surprise me.
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 12:55 PM
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4. I lived in Northern Chgo. during that time.
People were terrified. knowing what I know now about corporations I'd say
follow the money. Who profited by the new legislation that required new
packaging on all food and drugs.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 01:43 PM
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8. Good point! Gives one food for thought. n/t
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 01:53 PM
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9. Follow the money works both ways
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 01:55 PM
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10. Bingo!
And suddenly every bottle of food or medicine is "safety sealed" in new layers of new plastic.

Qui bono? I've always strongly suspected.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 01:07 PM
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 01:40 PM
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7. “There's no evidence to support it, otherwise someone would have been charged.”
And why is there no evidence to support it? Possibly because a multi-billion dollar corporation has suppressed any such evidence?

Hmmm?
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 02:54 PM
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14. That sentence is something of a train wreck in the first place


There can easily be evidence to support a claim that someone may have committed a crime, and not enough evidence to charge or convict.

As a statement of any sort of principle, that sentence fails.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 02:12 PM
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11. KNR...interesting that the daughter of one of the victims believes this theory...
And quite frankly, our government works for corporations, so if Johnson and Johnson said look the other way, they'd do it.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 02:54 PM
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13. Just in time for Christmas! Self-published conspiracy theory drivel.
:shrug: Maybe Johnson and Johnson faked the moon landing and sent anthrax to the post office too? You know, because the Government loves to help evil corporations?

:eyes: :crazy:
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 02:57 PM
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16. Do you own J&J stock or something?
nt

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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 03:00 PM
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17. Of course, I'm sipping martinis on the J&J yacht right now planning a new attack on something
:shrug:

(Guess I need to add the :sarcasm: before everyone alerts.)
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 07:59 PM
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19. Why is an alternative to the "official" story always a conspiracy?
Edited on Mon Sep-26-11 07:59 PM by Lucian
So what? Do you think corporations don't lie so they don't get into trouble?

If a corporation is a person, and people lie, that means corporations lie.
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CopingBarker Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-11 02:57 PM
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15. I love the latest take that it might have been the Unabomber
crazy 'ol Uncle Ted...
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