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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 04:44 PM
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About their victim-based, absolutist slogans/jingoism
Edited on Sun Sep-25-11 04:51 PM by Fire Walk With Me
They have well-paid people making up this shitty jingoism. It always makes one side the bad guy, inarguably bad, and paints the speaker as a victim. It's always absolutist. "Support our troops" while their orders are illegal. "Class Warfare" while they're the 1%. Verbal bullying.

What are the books about this subject? "Crack the Code"? I'd like some good advice on how to twist this crap right back around upon them.

Edit. FFS, I'm not talking about learning to do what they do and turn it upon them; I just want to be able to be effective in shooting down their when it occurs. Look how we've bought their "class warfare" bullshit. They're winning...
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 04:47 PM
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1. How much like them would you like to be?
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 04:48 PM
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2. Come on. I want to defuse their absolutist crap, not become one of them.
Edited on Sun Sep-25-11 04:49 PM by Fire Walk With Me
For instance, "The next time someone boos at a gay US soldier, remind them 'Support Our Troops' is an absolute."
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 04:51 PM
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4. Good comeback..
Doing nothing is not the answer.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 04:49 PM
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3. Indeed. Unfortunately, people seem to ignore jingoism when it comes from our side. nt
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 04:53 PM
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5. You mean like Democrats saying BrINg THe TRooPS HoME ! in 2006?
Which won them the midterms?

It works just fine when they want it to

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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 04:55 PM
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6. Very good point. We need this more than ever, full-time.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 04:57 PM
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7. ...
and on your edit? The Democrats should have been the FIRST to exploit the class warfare talking point. They all but said it during Obama's campaign, and that's what got him votes. Too late now. :-(
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 05:03 PM
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8. Yeah. So, how do we turn it around? I see the mechanism, I see its results, how to turn it?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 05:04 PM
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9. Not as much as you! nt
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 06:08 PM
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11. ...
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 05:06 PM
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10. CNN: "Massive Rioting Possible in US?" They're demonizing the protesters, spreading fear.
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