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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 02:50 PM
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I think the elites are hoping one of the protestors kills a police officer.
Or at least causes significant harm to a police officer. Then the media will give the hurt cop constant coverage, and the protestors can be quelled using more drastic measures.

Why else round up young girls and mace them? http://markcrispinmiller.com/2011/09/nypd-pens-up-peaceful-protesters%E2%80%94all-women%E2%80%94and-then-maces-them/

Why else drag people peaceful across the street and beat them up? http://markcrispinmiller.com/2011/09/nypd-runs-amok-at-12th-st-and-university-place-does-michael-bloomberg-want-his-cops-to-kill-somebody/

What is the logic? Tea Baggers protest with guns and signs threatening violence, and yet the cops do nothing. Is there something I am missing? What function does police violence against peaceful people serve, if not to provoke?
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 02:52 PM
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1. Elites are also hoping one of the police (working class) kills a protester (working class), in
Edited on Sun Sep-25-11 02:53 PM by coalition_unwilling
order to intimidate those of us who still might be considering exercising our First Amendment rights to peaceful assembly and freedom of speech.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 02:57 PM
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2. Yes, all protests stopped after Kent State.
Oh, wait...
 
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:24 PM
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20. You aren't suggesting that we blow up as many buildings as the Left did then, are you?
just sayin'
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:35 PM
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24. The anti-war movement saw a sharp curtailment in protest
activity following Kent State, after the college strike in the immediate aftermath of the Kent State killings had run its course. Suddenly protesters were aware that protesting against the war might cost them their lives.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:07 PM
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8. Like terraists, those in power who do not, by their actions, represent the interests of the people
do not like us for our freedoms either. :patriot:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:00 PM
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3. Unintended consequences
Police brutality brings the media to it...more people learn of it.

So let me thank the mayor.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:03 PM
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6. Have the protests been getting more TV time since the police brutality has started? nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:05 PM
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7. Here
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:14 PM
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11. Excellent. The ABC video pulls some punches with their edits, but it's better than
nothing.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:14 PM
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13. Yup, nose, camel tent...
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:11 PM
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10. There will be many more protesters if the police actually kill a protester.
The death of a protester will probably result in a funeral march the next day, attended by protesters. If the police attack that funeral procession, that will simply draw even more people out to protest that outrageous act. If the police are foolish enough, they'll attack all these newcomers too. The situation could snowball. We're seeing that in Syria, but the difference is Syrian police and army are using live ammunition.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:14 PM
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12. Yup, and the news blackout is starting to break too
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 05:17 PM
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25. I agree - finally it is in the mainstream media. And to me who saw the
protests of the 60s it was obvious police intimidation - police violence in the use of mace. This will draw more protesters and more commitment to the cause.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:00 PM
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4. Probably not going to happen ...a 50 cal is not something you can easily hide.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:02 PM
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5. I don't see what a 50 cal rifle has anything to do with it.
I am not sure what your line of thinking is here.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 07:15 PM
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28. 50 cal will go through a bp vest
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:09 PM
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9. As it turns out the rightwingers with guns at protests were acting within the law



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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:15 PM
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14. What law are these girls breaking?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:17 PM
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15. Not doing precise what the officer...
Oh never mind excessive use of force for starters...
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:26 PM
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22. I can't really say. I can't really see or hear what is happening.


They look like they are just standing there behind a barricade.

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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:18 PM
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16. M$M will start covering it when they think there is enough money to be made from
increased viewership. If any are waiting for M$M to do the right thing, it will be a long wait. M$M only cares about money, not the country, not "we the people." M$M is driven by greed and profit.


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DrunkenBoat Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:21 PM
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18. MSM is a control tool. It's not all about profit. Rumor has it that Limbaugh is subsidized, for
Edited on Sun Sep-25-11 03:25 PM by DrunkenBoat
example.

and tv viewership is actually down in key demographics.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:27 PM
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That's a very good point! n/t
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:21 PM
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17. More like they're hiring/training an agent provocateur and choosing an anti-corruption cop as patsy
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:22 PM
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19. They are hoping a protestor accidentally scratches a cop with a hangnail
so they can start shooting then all.
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:24 PM
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21. Hmm
My instincts tell me that in current situation and Wall Street as target, TPTB would feel more confortable if this turned into Black Block mayham or Riot a la London. Strict and persistent Satyagraha is what makes them really scared - and for a good reason.

Satyagraha - Politics is the art of impossible!
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:27 PM
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23. The police want to provoke a single violent response so they can arrest everyone.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 05:33 PM
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26. I think the anarchists are hoping the police kill one of the protesters...
to make a martyr for the cause and bring more people out to the event.

Sid
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 06:26 PM
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27. There may be a few anarchists who feel that way.
Of course the anarchists have very little influence over the police. They can't order the police to make arrests, and they have no political influence over those that do control the police.
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