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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 06:43 PM
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Whatever Happened to the "Peace Dividend"?
Anyone old enough to recall the fall of the Soviet Union and the subsequent end to the Eastern bloc? Anyone remember the talk about the "Peace Dividend"? Anyone recall the super bright future ahead of us now that the scourge of humanity, Communism, was no more? How we were going to have so much money because we would not have to fight the "Cold War" any more?

What happened to our "Peace Dividend"? What happened to our bright future? Why are we living on the brink of economic ruin?
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 06:46 PM
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1. Ronald Reagan gave it to the wealthy
Probably to make up for the war dividends they were no longer raking in (HAH!) from defense contractors. :sarcasm:
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 06:46 PM
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2. 9/11 ( n/t )
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 06:53 PM
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3. It was converted to war debt, but the exchange rate was pretty good.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 06:56 PM
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4. Two things
1) Newt Grinch's Congress would not let Bill Clinton spend any money.

2) George W. Bush gave it all away on tax cuts for the wealthy.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 06:57 PM
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5. Clinton used it to reduce the deficit
then Bush started two wars and sent us backwards.

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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 06:58 PM
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6. The fact that America is never at peace.
Even during the 90s.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 07:26 PM
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7. Never even skipped a beat
Edited on Sat Sep-24-11 07:26 PM by izquierdista
Go look at the Pentagon budget. It sailed through 1989, 1990, 1991, and on through the Clinton years with not even the slightest of perturbations. Thanks to the military-industrial complex marketers and planners, there will always be military hardware to buy, systems to develop, and threats to analyze.*




* but not terrorists flying airplanes into buildings; I don't think anyone could have predicted that.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 07:28 PM
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8. We ended our brief flirtation with peace. (NT)
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 07:30 PM
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9. Check the bottomless coffers of the MIC for the answer to that puzzle.
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 07:32 PM
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10. After the cold war...
...there was a lot of pressure on companies with huge government contracts for defense to ease into the commercial marketplace. They didn't want to do this. Many of them actually conducted market research before the first war in Iraq to see what people would accept as a viable reason to continue massive defense spending. The Iraq/Kuwait scenario was actually one of their test cases.

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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 07:39 PM
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11. Actually, Operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm ended all
Edited on Sat Sep-24-11 07:42 PM by coalition_unwilling
talk of a 'Peace Dividend,' at least as I remember it.

America was a nice idea while it lasted. The 'economic ruin' you posit is merely the destruction of liberal democracy and its replacement by neo-feudalism (where today's Microsoft operates like the Medicis back in Renaissance Florence),

I am pissed that my ancestors fought in the Union Army so that the Union might be preserved. I'm pretty sure this is not what Lincoln had in mind when he resolved at Gettysburg that "government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

Well, as the young-uns say, "Whatevs."
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 08:06 PM
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12. Child labor.. prison labor..forced labor...
While the USA WELCOMES cheap Chinese goods flowing freely into our markets.

I wonder how many Fords or Chevys are on the road in China?

Free Trade is NOT free. NAFTA gave us the SHAFTA... our Congress is criminal.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 08:13 PM
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13. Have to have peace first.
Since the fall of the Soviet Union, the US has been involved in the following conflicts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations#1990.E2.80.931999 I'd post the list but it goes over DU's copyright guidelines, which should suggest how crazy long it is.
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