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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 02:19 AM
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Tesla, neutrinos, speed of light, 1932
Cross posted in DU Science first
posted here for those that don't go to the Science forum.


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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 02:22 AM
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1. Well in some things nocolai tesla was a visionary in ways
We are just starting to understand.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 02:51 AM
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3. Genius and ....
Built a ray gun mounted it in the back of a pick up truck, then drove around the US desert shooting at ships in the sky.

Strange freaking dude.
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 02:46 AM
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2. It always makes me sad when I think of
Mr. Tesla. One can only wonder how different life would be today if that poor man hadn't been robbed and tossed in the gutter.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 02:54 AM
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4. His Free Electrical Energy for the masses didn't play well
Who would it profit?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 11:47 AM
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16. "Smirk" - RipOffsters & GutterTossers, Inc. (R)
eom
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 04:00 AM
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5. Fuck Edison.
Tesla was the bomb diggity.

And, yes, the speed limit assumption was never more than an educated proposition.

Of course things can travel faster than light.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 04:10 AM
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6. Well his quote is causing quite a bit of internet discussion
I known that neutrons aren't neutrinos, but historically many think that Tesla was talking about neutrinos and not neutrons and perhaps he might have been, I'm not sure. Neutrons and neutrinos were only discussed scientifically for the first time in the late 20s and 30s.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 04:42 AM
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9. The Quote came from a 1932 science interview in The Eagle
After reading the source and the rest of the article, I do think now he was talking about neutrinos.

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1932-07-10.htm


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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 07:52 AM
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11. Another article from 1931 on light speed and Tesla

This one is from November 1931 from the magazine Science and Mechanics. The link has the original print and article like we use to get in microfiche
The article is from the editor.

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2010/12/10/faster-than-light/
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 04:14 AM
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7. Edison was a bit of a thug.
He's half the reason the film industry moved to L.A... to get away from his goon squads.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 04:22 AM
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8. He was a liar and a thief. Cheated Tesla out of $50,000.
Tesla was promised 50,000 dollars for work to improve Edison's inefficient dynamo. Tesla did improve the dynamos after nearly a year's worth of work, but Edison did not pay him the promised money. Edison went as far as trying to say he was joking, saying “Tesla, you don't understand our American humor”. For more on this see, "Tesla: Man Out of Time" By Margaret Cheney (Simon and Schuster, 2001. ISBN 0-7432-1536-2), pages 56-57.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Currents#cite_note-7


:patriot:
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 07:28 PM
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17. "If relativity didn't exist, your GPS wouldn't work" is true! Just Google "relativity GPS." and see.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:08 PM
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18. One of my favorite things to do is to get scientists to admit they don't know something.
Most of them are good-humored about it and quick to admit it.

:hi:
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newfie11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 05:09 AM
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10. What a different world we might have today if not for greed
From: http://www.teslasociety.com/biography.htm

"Tesla's concept of wireless electricity was used to power ocean liners, destroy warships, run industry and transportation and send communications instantaneously all over the globe. To stimulate the public's imagination, Tesla suggested that this wireless power could even be used for interplanetary communication. If Tesla were confident to reach Mars, how much less difficult to reach Paris. Many newspapers and periodicals interviewed Tesla and described his new system for supplying wireless power to run all of the earth's industry.

Because of a dispute between Morgan and Tesla as to the final use of the tower. Morgan withdrew his funds. The financier's classic comment was, "If anyone can draw on the power, where do we put the meter"
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 09:01 AM
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12. I am sorry , Tesla might have been smarter than Edison , but in some aspects he was a quack
Does not hold a candle to Einstein and his deep physical intuition. I say that as someone who admires Tesla.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 10:10 AM
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13. K & R For The Man Who Never Had To Write It Down!
Tesla saw everything he did fully formed beforehand. It all just showed up in his head. No need for notes or test runs.

:bounce:
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 11:29 AM
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15. A person who had learned how to use his brain
That's why he was able to come up with all those things.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 11:23 AM
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14. Neutrinos or neutrons have no electrical charge
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AngkorWot Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-11 03:11 PM
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19. I notice you didn't cross posted the debunking.
Now why would that be?
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