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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 10:05 AM
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GOP lawmaker: US solar panel industry could fail
Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — A Republican House chairman blasted the solar industry Thursday, calling loans to solar panel manufacturers, such as ill-fated Solyndra Inc., a poor bet and predicting the solar panel industry itself could collapse in the United States.

An industry group immediately disputed the remark by Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., citing a report showing that solar panel installations were up nearly 70 percent in the second quarter of 2011, compared with the same period last year.

Issa, the chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said the $528 million loan to the now-bankrupt California solar energy company is just one example of the Obama administration's failed attempt to create green jobs.


Citing competition from China and other problems, Issa told reporters after the hearing: "It is reasonable to predict that we could have the collapse of the entire solar panel manufacturing business in America."


Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g3vdtAx6AJ5PaKdOK1TYXHlw5uWA?docId=3626582891af47109ebae4f7e14904ec



Way to go GOP and Darrell Issa! Way to shill for the oil and coal industry and China at the same time. Last month he was going after fuel efficiency standards. Today the solar industry!
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 10:11 AM
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1. The government should have incentivized solar energy above all else.
This really pisses me off and is obviously a failure of leadership and one that will have a huge impact on our future.

Shame.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 10:12 AM
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2. If it doesn't use OIL, the GOP doesn't want anything to do with it.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 10:51 AM
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6. exactly
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 11:20 AM
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11. Not true - they are also very, very fond of uranium and plutonium nt
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 11:58 AM
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16. We forgot coal too
Maybe the statement is, if it is a renewable resource that cannot be controlled by their rich constituents, they they will try to kill it.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 10:18 AM
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3. "Better to stick with oil. Heh heh heh." Slamming the competition of his donors doesn't sound legal
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 10:21 AM
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4. And the GOP by all
that is rational and just must fail. Well, should, anyway.
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think Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 10:37 AM
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5. +1
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 10:54 AM
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7. There goes the future of the US.
Edited on Fri Sep-23-11 10:54 AM by JDPriestly
Solar, wind and water are the future for energy. Oil, coal, gas and nuclear will prove too dangerous and too expensive before long.
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 10:57 AM
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8. +100
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 11:22 AM
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12.  People like Issa had better wake up - if they and their supporters
continue to obstruct the change over to these sources they are going to be remembered. When shit hits the fan and those old energy sources run out and can no longer provide the lifestyle we have become accustomed to it will be them we blame. They will be the target of our anger. And if anyone thinks those of us who already know what is happening are angry wait until the idiots who believe the lies find out they have been used and abandoned to their own fate. You know the ones with the guns - the ones who support the old systems - the Kocksuckers - they are going to be furious. They are going to want blood.
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Muskypundit Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 11:53 AM
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15. No, if the oil runs out they will be screaming for liberal blood
Because if we would JUST open up the national preserves in Alaska it would solve all of our oil problems for our lifetime. Hell, maybe FOREVER!! Right? Right?

That's what would happen. No one will ever admit their side is wrong.
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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 12:05 PM
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18. They'll find a way to blame liberals, poor people and minorities.
See: Housing collapse.

We even have 'em here: "people who bought more house than they can afford!!!!"
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 10:59 AM
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9. So what is Issa's point
That the United States isn't able to compete with countries like China so we should just give up? Of course it probably has a lot more to do with how much oil producers and sellers contribute to Issa and the Mepublican Party
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 11:19 AM
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10. The quote has been censored from the article now. It's title is different as well.
Looks like the rethug machinery is in full effect at google.
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Moosepoop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 06:01 PM
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28. No censorship.
The link in the OP goes to a different AP article, but the titled and quoted Boston Globe one is on the same page under the AP article, under "Related Articles."

Or, just use this link: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2011/09/22/gop_house_chair_us_solar_industry_could_collapse/
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 11:22 AM
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13. "Citing competition from China"...well then
end the competition by adopting fair trade policies based on human rights and protection for American workers and businesses.

Problem solved.
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 11:31 AM
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14. Issa...THE poster child of CORRUPTION!
What a liar...crook...creep...vile...slimey...skeezy...

and on and on.

Come of LimpStreamMedia...expose this walking evil.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 12:01 PM
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17. Better to throw tens of BILLIONS at war contractors, eh Darrell?
It really is too bad people like Issa will never feel the consequences of their actions. Their children will also probably be too well off to be ruined by what is happening.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 12:21 PM
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19. WAKE UP, CA 49!
Dump this bozo

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Betty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 12:22 PM
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20. Translation: we repugs will do everything in our power to make sure
It fails, because we are total whores owned by big oil.
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divine_truine Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 12:24 PM
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21. house gop corpor-bootlickers have to make outlandish preposterous comments to satisfy their masters
they're against free-energy technology, against science, against facts (while making up their own facts to continue misleading their constituents, gop or otherwise), planetary degradation deniers, tricksters & swindlers ALL OF 'EM!

ISSA, sit and spin baby! when you get to the elbow the rides over! your time as chair will once again be short-lived. you are toxic waste befouling the halls of congress (like all the rest of them who cower and take corporate money in exchange for your vote). please, do us all a favor and spontaneously combust and get it over with. you and most repuke gop bring shame to these united states of america. go F yourselves!

Warm regards,

A Proud American
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Hestia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 01:02 PM
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22. What is killing US solar panel manufacturers is China's commitment to be #1 in this industry
and they are pouring billions into the industry to bring prices down below the entire world and not allowing competition in this particular industry. You know, like what we do with cotton and other commodities. Bad on China's part is they are 1 cog to 1 machine, with no new innovation. There has been some in bringing more watts per panel, but they are too expensive to make here - supposedly.

I do wish a Democrat would stand up and state that Solyndra's application started in 2005, and it not was fast tracked through when Obama was inaugurated. Once again, another media fail by our illustrious party.
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julian09 Donating Member (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 02:25 PM
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25. Oil subsidies should be diverted to renewable energy sector
Give the solar industry an increased demand, by supplying solar energy to schools, municipal buildings, military bases etc, while reducing energy costs to taxpayers. When they made that loan to SOLANDRA I remember thinking, Why give all that money to one solar co and not spread the opportunities. With oversupply we needed an end market to sell to, not more oversupply to kill prices. The news however of falling prices, is good for consumer and installers. The installers can't be outsourced, if they dump, we can impose tariff as we did with aluminum.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 02:08 PM
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23. Oh, but let's bail out failed capitalists in the banking and brokerage industries!
"Poor bet," Issa?

Fuck you and your selective memory!
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 02:10 PM
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24. That lawmaker must be soaked in oil money
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rtracey Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 02:28 PM
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26. Sad
The sad part of this whole mess, is the fact that the US can always make the 500 million back, but its the fact that the repubs will now use this to jump all solar panel production industry and destroy it before it gets started. The Chinese will continue to be number 1 in this business, and again the US will miss the boat. I think the fact that this will be a big scandal for trying to jump start the economy, yet ENRON was well established, and lost in the upwards of 70 Billion of tax payers (investors) money, and that seems to be just crap in the history books, unless you are still needing social security to survive from their arrogance.
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aggiesal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 03:27 PM
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27. Issa backwards is ...
ASS I

Ironic!
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 06:18 PM
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29. Solar is doing great. America isn't. American solar COULD crash, and the world wouldn't care
Nor would it slow their adoption of solar much - it's just another way America is getting left in the previous century.

If American labor is competing with Chinese labor to make solar panels, OF COURSE America will fail, until we get through a pretty deep cleaning of our entire industrial system.

And it's certainly true that if we continue to let the Republicans run things that the solar industry will fail. They will guarantee it, by any means necessary.
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