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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 04:36 PM
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Things That Apple Is Worth More Than.
Edited on Thu Sep-22-11 04:39 PM by onehandle
Twice the entire U.S. clothing store business

All the Gold at the New York Federal Reserve

The entire economy of Singapore

All the illegal drugs in the world

The Star Wars, Star Trek, Harry Potter, Stephen King, and Twilight franchise combined

more...

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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 05:05 PM
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1. XOM -- Exxon/Mobil (by quite a bit) (NT)
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 05:53 PM
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2. stocks are only paper until you sell them. apple's value (like other companies) is an illusion. nt
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 05:55 PM
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3. That cash on their balance sheet is very real, however. nt
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 08:37 PM
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7. They sell actual physical products, unlike many companies on Wall Street. Meanwhile...
The average middle-class American will spend roughly $481 each year on Apple products by 2015, up from $321 this year, while emerging middle-class consumers in developing markets will drive substantial growth for the company in coming years, according to a new analysis.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/09/21/middle_class_americans_to_spend_481_a_year_on_apple_products_by_2015.html

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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 11:30 PM
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12. It wasn't an illusion last year...
when I cashed in my $4 shares for $325 each and used the proceeds to make my annual contributions to Feeding America, Red Cross, Doctors without Borders and the New York Tines Neediest Cases Fund.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 05:59 PM
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4. With all that money, you'd think they could make iTunes a decent piece of software.
Edited on Thu Sep-22-11 05:59 PM by QC
I love my iPad, but being chained to iPad, the most bloated, buggy, clunky piece of software ever conceived, just sucks.

I will not be buying any more Apple products.

It's simply not worth having to spend an hour or two repeatedly uninstalling iTunes and reinstalling it and rebooting over and over every time I want to sync. Many, many people are having this same problem with iTunes being unable to "see" iPods and iPads and iPhones, but Apple can't be bothered to fix it.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:02 PM
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5. QC
QC

You have to have a bugged Itune.. My Itune, and Ipad works flawlessley, and I was really impressed over how fast Ipad was connected to my computer.. at best 2 min it tooks, to get the whole thing up and running.. Impressive to say at least. And I just have an ordinary Ipad with WIFI, and 32gb hardrive.. No fancy at all. but dam the thing works flawlessy...

Diclotican
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sammytko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 08:49 PM
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9. Mine runs great also
I have a pc, but also iPhone and iPad 2. They all sync easily. I do sync everyday, so maybe that helps. Doesn't take long at all.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 03:18 PM
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18. sammytko
sammytko

Have never had any problems with the Ipad.. It is a great tool, who can be used to many other things, than just look at youtube.. Im a "fanatical" Flightsim flyer, and use the pad, to charts, to have all my different documents for the aircrafts Im flying and so one.. The PMDG 747, the MD11, The 737ng (not ngx) and the Ifly 737NG.. It is a great tool to all this, and proberly fare more than I know today.. I guess it also is enviroment friendly, as I dosen't all this paper documents anymore.. Even the proes, who fly for real, have now discovered what a tool the Ipad can be, when it came to documents and sutch.. So, I was in fact "ahead of he curve" in this prospect..

I sync to the PC when nessesary, not every day, but I do it, a few times a month.. Goes flawless and no troubles at all..

Diclotican
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 09:16 PM
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10. It worked fine until a recent update.
Edited on Thu Sep-22-11 09:17 PM by QC
Now iTunes might recognize my iPad, or it might not. Then it might recognize it after a series of uninstalls and reinstalls. Or not. Until tomorrow, maybe, for no apparent reason.

Lots and lots of people have had this issue, but Apple seems not to care at all.

Fortunately, IOS 5 will allow us to sync without having to use a computer at all. I am so looking forward to that.

Even without this issue, I have long found iTunes to be incredibly bloated and clunky. It was a decent media player at one time, but now it is a store.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 03:26 PM
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19. QC
QC

That is sad.. Becouse the Ipad is a great tool to so many things.. Have never had problems at all, it works flawless, even when the itunes was updated.. But I have to say, one time I did have troubles, with the Itunes, when it dosen't wanted to update itself.. But I just reinstalled the Itune, and after that, it all worked flawless again..

And I was impressed by the battery life on the Ipad.. With my use, I need just to load the pad one time a month. And it is re-loaded in maybe 30-45 min from allmoust 0 life, to full battery.. So even tho Ipad do have their faults, it is a great thing when it works...

Every programs tend to be bigger and more bloated as time goes.. I rembember when WIN Media player was just that a little media player where you could play a song from your CD.. Now the Win mediaplayer are far more adwanced, and far more capable - but also far more bloated and with a lot of tools you might never want or need to use..

But I agree that the "Itune-store" thingy in Itunes sucks.. It is just a anying thing that we as users should be able to disable if we shoose too..

Diclotican
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 07:09 PM
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20. Even Winamp is now enormous.
Remember what a wonderfully light, simple little mp3 player it used to be? You can still get a basic version, of course, but even it is kinda big. I still miss the late 90s Winamp. It really kicked the llama's ass.

I am hoping that the IOS 5 release will fix my issue, since it provides for wireless syncing. Like you, I think the iPad is a wonderful thing, and I say that as someone who has never been an Apple groupie.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 07:52 PM
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22.  QC
QC

Yeah, I rembember the Winamp, who easy it was to use, to what it what meant to be.. Pitty it have been so big, and the use of it, have not excactly been better. In many ways, the little tiny MP3 player of the 1990s, was a better player than the current one.. Mostly becouse the functionality have not excactly been better than it was..

Oh, well, I miss the sound of the Modem dialing up too.. Even tho my broadband conections is superiour to even the best dial up, i somehow miss the sounds.. And the expections, when I got online - on a 57.600 kb rate:P.. Oh wel, old times..

Hopefully the new OS can do fix your issues, and not make new ones.. Have never been a apple groupie myself too. But the IPAD was a wounderfull experience.. It tok 2 min from I was taking the pad out of its casket, to it was up and running.. That is something I NEVER have experienced with any dingy to a computer.. On the other side, some friends of me, was making fuzz becouse I have not bouth the Ipad 2, and was saying the pad was bad - even that I haven't had the thing for more than one hour.. I bougth the Pad I could affoard for the moment.. And it is a great tool, for many things. Oh wel, non om them, have getting the pad, that be the orginal one, or the new one.. So I guess Im better off than them in that prospect..

Diclotican
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 07:51 PM
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21. It works well with my iPhone and iPad.
I just don't like how it works ... everything else Apple makes is very intuitive; iTunes, not so much. I'm still a rookie with it.

Bake
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 07:55 PM
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23. Bake
Bake

Just take your time then you wil "get it" with Itunes.. But they do have some anyoing things sometimes..

But yes, Apple have for the most part been able to make their tools intiutive.. When I saw on youtube that a 3 year old child could master the Ipad as that she had never been doing anything else in her life, in fact she had a better grasp on it, than her father.. Then I desided, okay I can also get a Ipad..

Diclotican
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 08:15 PM
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24. It IS the coolest thing ever ... well, since the iPhone
I hate to sound like a "fanboy," but I love my Apple devices!

Bake
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 08:46 PM
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8. You'll probably get a laugh out of this.
I'm still running iTunes 7, because I have an eMac that is 7 years old and I'm still running OSX 10.3.9. Every time I run iTunes 7, it blanks out most of the screen and urges me to download iTunes 10.3, and if I click on that, it takes me to a page where I can download iTunes 10.4.1 (why can't they get those version numbers in sync).

But worse, I can't download 10.4.1 because it won't work on my computer: it requires OSX 10.5 or later. Why could the iTunes software figure out the fact that I am not running OSX 10.5, therefore I cannot download that version of iTunes, so why do they keep asking me to download it?

And moreover, would it have been that hard for them to make the new version of iTunes compatible with OSX 10.3.9? Would it have required Herculean programming skills? If it would be impossible, why did they add features to iTunes that made it incompatible with millions of older Macs still in use?

Because of this, I am completely blocked out of the iTunes store, it won't show me the store, only that ad to download the latest iTunes, so I can't go to their store at all. It leaves just a tiny part of the window open where I can access and play the songs I've already bought.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 09:21 PM
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11. I am not surprised.
But Apple's attitude toward its customers has always been that they should accommodate Apple, rather than the other way around.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 06:25 PM
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6. Maybe they'll bring some jobs back for the jobless here...
:sarcasm:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 07:37 PM
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27. They have. Go into an Apple Store and you will see more
employees in that room than you see in your average Best Buy. In our local store, you will see three or four behind the Genius Bar, then another six or eight on the sales floor. No telling how many are working in the back room.

They do retail right by making sure they have enough sales and service staff on the floor. I hope other retail establishments copy that, but too many are so cheap, they won't hire anyone.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 11:33 PM
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13. Yea for Chinese workers! Fuck apple! Build shit here!
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BoWanZi Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 12:09 AM
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14. Is there a point to this thread?
I love Macs. I use a 27 inch thunderbolt iMac at work as well as a quad Xenon Macpro as my main work machines but I don't get these self fulfilling posts on various websites by the fanbois. I have been using macs for a long time and even have an original Mac 512k but I don't bow down to the ground that Steve walks on.

I get the impression that Maccies need to feel good about their machines to the point of pointing out absurdities like that Apple is worth more than Singapore's economy? Really? I just don't get these kind of posts. Why is it so important to point out things that Apple is worth more than rather than say GE or IBM or Microsoft or Ford or whomever?


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WiffenPoof Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 12:31 AM
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15. Well, Let's Just Think About This...
...for a minute.

Stop and ask yourself what other company has had a greater impact on our daily lives not only in this country, but around the world.

In many ways (at least in my humble opinion), Steve Jobs and Apple have changed this world like nothing before. I know you will bring up examples that you believe had a greater impact...But if you stop and think about how their products have changed the very nature of how we exist on this planet, it is hard to argue against it.

That , my friend, is why the topic of Apple is important.

-P
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 12:47 AM
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16. After reading your post I find that my life has been for nothing
for I own nothing of the Apple stuff you speak.............

My life is over........
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BoWanZi Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-11 08:30 AM
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17. You do have a valid point, Apple has had a huge impact in a lot of daily lives
But I would say its more about leveraging their marketing dept rather than changing the world. The iPod and iPhone are perfect examples of that. They weren't the first ones out there but they put incredible design and thought into their iPod/iPhone and then marketed the hell out of them so that people are now conditioned to accept the alternatives as "second class" no matter if the tech of that second class device is actually better than the iPhone. Its why the Zune was never really taken seriously as an iPod alternative or why other music stores don't do nearly as well as the iTunes music store.

Its funny, while sitting at my desk doing work, I will sometimes randomly pull the side panel off the side of my Macpro tower just to stare inside at it and wonder why Windows based computers are never nearly as well designed or put together as Macs. Gotta hand it to their design dept.
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WiffenPoof Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 02:14 PM
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25. I Have To Agree With You...
Edited on Sat Sep-24-11 02:15 PM by WiffenPoof
I have used both and have always found that the Mac was a better designed product. The domination of PCs over the years is not unlike the battle that took place between VHS and Beta. If you recall both the Beta and VHS came out at roughly the same time. The battle was on to see which system would dominate. It was clear to most people that Sony's product, Beta was a much higher quality system...but it was more expensive to the consumer. As is typical, the cheaper system dominated even though it was not the highest quality available. As a result we, the consumer had to tolerate something that was less than the best.

I look at the old battle between Macs and PCs the same way. IMHO, the Mac was far superior in quality and design...but they were more expensive. When it comes to price vs. quality, the consumer will always buy the cheaper product. It has taken years and years for the consumer to come around and realize that the Macintosh has always been the better product. Of course, Apple's success is largely due to other products.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to predict that computers of the future will be dominated by tablets. They will continue to improve and will also become cheaper as time goes on.

The reason why the iPad was so successful even though they weren't the first (by a long shot) is that the consumer has over the years begun to appreciate the quality of Apple products.

My only disappointment with Apple is their move to have their products put together overseas. It is a disappointment that is hard to put into words. I have always seen Apple as the "rebel" in the industry...that they would not follow convention. But alas, they have succumb to the temptation to do what everyone else has done. I am so disappointed that they decided to do that. I thought for sure that they would defy convention and remain a purely American made company. I even wrote to them about it...I was so pissed. I'm typing on a brand new iMac with all the buzzers and bells (almost got the tower) and it is disconcerting to know that it was assembled in China.

Shame on you Mr. Jobs.

-P
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-11 07:05 PM
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26. Suck on it Michael Dell.
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