Photos of Georgia Pardons and Parole Board Member Murderers.

[louslobbs]

From Left to Right:
Chairman James E. Donald,
Vice Chairman Albert Murray,
Member L. Gale Buckner,
Member Robert E. Keller,
and Member Terry Barnard.

These five murderers can be added to the Supreme Court murderers who held Troy Davis's life in their hands. Troy Davis was murdered by the state of Georgia, their Pardons and Parole Board operatives and the operatives on the Supreme court, as the coroners report lists the death as a Homicide.

As an American, I am ashamed of this country and suggest from here on in, that states which allow the death penalty, change the phrase "The People of the State against," to "the State and its operatives against" when prosecuting their vengeful agendas.

No one was asking that Troy Davis be released, We, "some of the people," were asking only that the "powers that be," acknowledge the fact that there were too many doubts about this man's guilt to go forward with an execution and to commute the sentence to life imprisonment.

Some of the most powerful and alleged smartest among us, seem to lack some of the most important and humane characteristics in being human such as: common sense, logic, integrity, compassion and sense of right and wrong. When even a court labeled "Supreme," fails to do what is right morally and legally, then I fear for the future of America.

Who would have been adversely affected by a commuted sentence in this case? The man would still have been incarcerated, not a threat to anyone, and there would still be time to look at all of the facts again, and again if need be, as they may have arisen, until there was no doubt about who was guilty of this murder.

Maybe we would never have know definitively, who really committed the crime, but at least a man who might have been innocent, would not have been murdered by the state.

What happens tomorrow, if the "real" murderer confesses to this crime? Do we all just go on with our lives with those who committed the murder of Troy Davis saying, oooops!

I'm sick and saddened today about this horrible situation, and each and every other day, that this country continues it's pathetic downward slide.

Hey!.......I know how we'll prevent people from murdering each other.......we'll just murder anyone who murders anyone else even if we are not 100 percent sure they committed the murder.....that'll stop em........NOT!
Lou

[Donnachaidh]

1. I'm just as sickened and saddened as everyone else, but I have to ask

WHAT is to be gained in posting the photos here?

Seriously -- is it hoped these people are hunted down? Is it going to bring Troy Davis back?

If you're angry then work to change the LAWS that allow parole boards to do what they did. Work to get the death penalty banned from this country.

I dunno -- I'm kind of stunned that this sort of *outing* is happening here. You may think I'm wrong, but it seems to me to be the sort of move you'd find on FR - not here.

[Poll_Blind]

2. And HOLY JESUS someone HACKED the Georgia Pardon and Paroles website and...

...PLASTERED THEIR PICTURES ALL OVER IT TOO!

State Board of Pardons and Paroles

OMG TEH MADNESS!

PB

[Donnachaidh]

3. whatever

guess I can't expect an honest discussion when the blood is up, eh? :sarcasm:

Again -- reminds me of the sort of dick moves found on FR.... :eyes:

[louslobbs]

9. No, not "whatever." You don't want an "honest discussion," you want to make me wrong because you

feel as though I did something you would not have done. You accused me of "outing" people online for the purpose of some form of vengeance and you also compared my post to a FR post. You don't want an honest conversation, you want a confrontation......and that's what I intend to give you. FR is not an honest discussion so you have outed yourself once again for who and what you really are.
Lou

[Poll_Blind]

23. Honestly, Donnachaidh, I'm thinking everyone you disagree with you compare to something on FR.

I just hope you don't run out of paper before the "list" is done 'cause you're going to look even sillier with DU handles written all over your arms and face.

PB

[louslobbs]

29. That's actually pretty pathetic, especially when Donnachaidh suggests that an honest discussion is

what they are looking to have. As I've said before, that type of comparison usually outs that person for who and what they are. It's pretty sad, because I appreciate a good debate or argument (conversations), but I really tire of those who bait others for a confrontation rather than their alleged "honest" discussions.
Thanks again Poll_Blind, not for the agreement, but for defending my position and calling out the disingenuous.
Lou

[Chan790]

33. It seems pretty obvious to me.

It puts faces to faceless institutionalized evil. This wasn't done by an mindless entity, it was done by people...it was evil perpetrated by people who should be called out, named and shamed. Anonymity among those in positions of power is antithetical to justice and good governance.

There is nothing being done here so "dick" as executing the potentially-innocent. They deserve to be known for what they have done.

[louslobbs]

38. Yes! You said it better than I, but thank you for doing so.

Lou

[louslobbs]

8. LOL......thank you poll_blind

LOL
Lou

[Rabblevox]

4. I also don't see the point here. It's the system, not individuals. /nt

[louslobbs]

10. The point is placing a face with a name. They are part of the system.

Lou

[Riley18]

13. It is the people who made the decision. Which proves the point that the system

Is broken. Death penalty has no place in a civilized democracy.

[louslobbs]

19. Exactly, that's how I feel, and I have no problem putting up public photos so that people can put a

face to the names. Some people had already decided that the Georgia parole board murderers of Troy Davis, were all white men in a "racist" Georgia. The photos show that this is not true. It's amazing how some people process information, to make something out to be, something that it isn't. I call them...."meaning making machines." Nothing wrong with being that, but it just creates confrontation rather than conversation when you accuse someone of something nefarious when that was not the intent.
Lou

[louslobbs]

5. First of all, that is your "story," it's how you look at things. These people are in public life,

their photos are out there for public view. I always like to see the faces of people and not just hear their names and I'm sure that others are just like me, you evidently have another agenda and way of processing information. If you are stunned by what you have called an "outing" on my part, then you should get over it and deal with those stories in your head. You have determined that this is an "outing," and you have a right to make that determination, but that is not what it is and that was not my intent in anyway, shape or form. You should have just limited your post to asking me what my intent was rather than forming that disgusting conclusion in your mind. As for your FR "sort of move" comment, I think everyone here can tell what that's about. Some people just like to create stories about other people because that's how their mind works or in this case, doesn't. One final thing, if you must create stories about what you think the motives of others are......especially someone like me who has posted here for a long time and is always considerate and respectful............I suggest you place me on ignore.......I would really appreciate it.
Lou

[Booster]

11. I tend to agree. The only difference is the someone on FR

would have printed their addresses too.

[louslobbs]

15. So you agree? Wow, FR seems to be on a lot of peoples minds, how do we know you are not FR people

posting here? You see it works both ways, I can create a story about you, how do I know that you are not part of the puppet troll patrol? I don't. I have already stated the reason for the photos, if that does not suffice in your world......too bad, get over it and move on. You want my post to represent something that it does not, you cannot force that to happen by telling stories. What proof do you have, documented proof, that at anytime this has been the way I post on DU? Sorry, we're not buying crazy here today.
Lou

[uppityperson]

58. Thank you. that was my first thought upon opening this thread also.

[pilar007]

65. Thanks for posting

I for one appreciate your posting of pix. What is so hard to understand about "reasonable doubt"? I do disagree about giving him life without parole. He needed another trial. Life without parole is still a death sentence...IMO

[Gregorian]

6. Do we know the vote? I don't think they revealed whether it was uninanimous or not.

I have been thinking about posting just this kind of thread. My purpose would be to promote activism on the behalf of Americans in order to eliminate the kinds of decisions that resulted in the death of Troy.

[RebelOne]

7. Hope some day that it will be proved that Troy Davis

was truly innocent and these people will have this execution on their consciences for the rest of their lives.

[louslobbs]

12. I agree, but unfortunately that will not give justice to Mr. Davis.

Lou

[LadyHawkAZ]

14. Is this DU or Nuremberg Files?

Seriously.

[louslobbs]

17. They're called photos, these are the public people who sit on the Georgia Pardons and Parole Board

If you didn't want to look at them, then why did you? You look at five photos, then you don't like what your brain has just told you that you have seen, then you use a ridiculous comparison to Nuremberg....lol....I'm sorry, but that's just too funny. Got any other stories you can make up in your mind that have no basis in fact that could make you look stupid to others online?
Lou

[kctim]

16. If you are going to claim they are murderers

then you might as well convict everybody involved with the case and who disagree with your opinion, as murderers and post their pics.

the Chatham County jury
the 1993 Georgia Supreme Court
a federal judge in 2004
the 2006 11th US Circuit Court of Appeals
a Savannah Georgia judge in 2007
the 2008 Georgia Supreme Court
the 2008 state parole board
the 2008 US Supreme Court
the 2009 federal appeals court
a US District Judge
the 2011 US Supreme Court
the 2011 Georgia Board of Pardons and Paroles
the 2011 Georgia and US Supreme Courts

[louslobbs]

18. Why don't you do that, my post only concerned this incident and my upset related to that.

But thanks for the suggestion.
Lou

[kctim]

21. ALL of those people ARE part of this incident

Being upset at only the last piece of the puzzle is pointless.

And FWIW, I do not agree that any of them are murderers, so I have no need to fish for support by posting their pics.

[Dreamer Tatum]

22. Ruth Bader Ginsberg: MURDERER.

:eyes:

[louslobbs]

25. I'm glad you agree.

Lou

[Dreamer Tatum]

28. So go arrest her, bro. Put your money where your keyboard is. nt

[louslobbs]

32. I just agreed with you.

Lou

[kctim]

36. The OP seems to think so

"These five murderers can be added to the Supreme Court murderers..."

[louslobbs]

24. I knew you didn't think any of them are murderers, you didn't have to tell me that. You are

entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine. All of those people are part of "this" incident might have some truth to it, but I focused my comment on the present, regardless of the impact of the past. If you would like to work on a post of your own (since you feel so strongly about it), I'll be happy to read the post and comment on it when you have completed it.
Lou

[kctim]

35. Really

You claim a lack of "common sense, logic, integrity, compassion and sense of right and wrong" on their behalf, while you yourself willingly disregard the facts of the past and focus only on the present in order to support that claim?

But yes, you are correct. We both are entilted to our own opinions.

[louslobbs]

40. Thanks for responding.

Lou

[Zywiec]

63. Too much effort. n/t

[sabrina 1]

70. Well, accessories after the fact might be more accurate

if any of them in any way made it impossible for Troy Davis to get a fair trial. I don't know what role each of those listed played in he eventual state murder of a possibly innocent man and any of them that made an attempt to make sure justice was served would be exempt. But if you contribute to blocking efforts to get anyone in this country a fair trial, and they are facing the DP, then you are responsible to some extent. Hiding behind 'the law' or 'just following orders' doesn't change that.

[louslobbs]

74. You're right, my post included the hyperbolic "Murderers," because of my heightened emotions at the

time of posting. It was pretty much over the top I admit, but I do agree with your entire post. Thanks Sabrina.
Your friend,
Lou

[indepat]

20. The Georgia Pardons and Parole Board and the Supreme Court of the United State did the right thing:

the far-right wing thing too often done in a society dominated by a far-right PNAC agenda of pre-emptive war, kill and maim, torture, be tough on crime and terra and drugs, and give long incarcerations for non-violent crimes et al. Sadly it seemingly is a microcosm of our society and characteristic of far too many who wield power as the civilized world watches incredulously in horror and dismay at the inhumanity so callously inflicted. :patriot:

[louslobbs]

26. I wish I understood even a little of that post, but I must admit that I don't.

Lou

[louslobbs]

27. I look at it this way, so far almost 600 people have viewed the photos, 13 have Rec'd the post

I'm the first to admit that I might be wrong about something, especially on reflection, but since I really feel this way about this, and obviously others do as well, I understand some wanting to comment and share their feelings, after all that is what this board is all about. However, those who choose to label a post, "FR like," "Trollish," "outing people," etc. do not want a conversation.........they want a confrontation plain and simple. They want to force their views on others, trying to make others wrong so that they can be right and feel superior. I don't play that way. I post honestly about how I feel and others should post without trying to make something, into something it is not. Doing so just outs the person who is playing that game, not the person who generated the post.
Lou

[Dreamer Tatum]

30. You seem to think that anyone tangentially involved with the execution is a murderer. But...

...using that same logic, Troy Davis is a murderer. He was THERE, right?

[louslobbs]

31. Was he?

Lou

[indepat]

48. I must sometimes speak in tongues when excoriating anything that even smells like it is

something those of a RW persuasion would like, do, or champion. ;) :patriot:

[Name removed]

51. Deleted message

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[louslobbs]

73. Some people speak in tongues when they have nothing reality based to speak about.

Lou

[tokenlib]

34. They are officials who need to be held responsible for their actions....

Post their pictures and post their public contact information. They are supposed to be a last ditch safety valve to stop a miscarriage of justice. The public should have the ability to praise them for their work---or to admonish them for dereliction of duty.

What about the next "Troy Davis" than comes along?

They have no right to "rubber stamp" an execution without having to face the response of the public that they serve.

[louslobbs]

37. Now there's some common sense, but to some, posting of photos is just like "Nuremberg" lol, it's no

surprise that this country is faltering as quickly as it is.
Lou

[asjr]

39. I read where it was a 3-2 decision to go ahead

and execute. I think the pictures speak for themselves.

[louslobbs]

42. I tried to find that information about the decision, where did you read that?

Thanks,
Lou

[asjr]

45. Actually on DU this morning. I can't remember

who posted it but I can go back and reread them to find out.

[louslobbs]

50. I appreciate that, but you don't have to........thanks.

Lou

[slackmaster]

41. They certainly all look like vicious killers

:grouphug:

[louslobbs]

43. What does a vicious killer look like?

Lou

[slackmaster]

44. THEM!

[louslobbs]

52. Gotcha......Thanks.

Lou

[Nye Bevan]

46. Chilling how an evil person can look smiling and normal in a photo (nt)

[louslobbs]

53. Evil is one of those things that unfortunately, you can't see in a photo or in person, you have to

wait for it to commit it's ugly crimes first.

Lou

[EFerrari]

61. This board said it would not execute anyone in a case where there is doubt

and then, they did anyway. That's evil.

[louslobbs]

66. Exactly, and thank you for reminding me and others of that fact. They did it anyway.

Thanks for the post my friend.
Lou

[Dogtown]

47. Public Shaming.

I get it, lou.

To bad there are so many with personal agendas to pursue posting in this thread.


These folks *should* be ashamed to show their faces in public. I hope they are ridiculed and exposed every time they step out the door.


Won't happen in this state, of course. Too many folks with the same attitude as your detractors living in GA.

[louslobbs]

54. Hey Dogtown, thanks....the people behind their agendas do what they do, I appreciate you getting

why I posted the photos. I don't expect everyone to have the ability to look at something for what it is without adding their own agendas, bigotries, and life stories, to create an opinion in their minds, that is simply a "made up story." I don't take it personally most of the time, but the last thing I am is a Free Republic type, and so I will take issue with those types of disingenuous commentary. Thanks again for your thoughtful and honest opinion related to placing a face with a name and the shaming that goes along with it. Lou

[louslobbs]

49. 888 views of the photos so far, where are all of the other Nuremberg and Free Republic comparison

posts? It is obvious, that people want to see the photos, and that out of almost 900 views so far, that the insignifigant few who want to label the posting of the photos as something nefarious, are thankfully, the minority here. Those types do not want to have the conversation they say they want to have about the photos or the issue which they surround, they'd rather start a confrontation by labeling the post as FR like, or of all things lol, raising the issue of Nuremberg in comparison lol. Good luck with that where I'm concerned, and apparently where many others are concerned as well lol.
Lou

[Dreamer Tatum]

55. People gape at car wrecks, too. nt

[louslobbs]

56. Yes, people do look at car wrecks, but your use of the word "gape" is an interesting way of saying

that. People also gape at the stupidity of others.
Lou

[louslobbs]

57. Gape:

a : to open the mouth wide b : to open or part widely <holes gaped in the pavement>.

2. : to gaze stupidly or in openmouthed surprise or wonder. 3. : yawn ...

[louslobbs]

59. 1,176 have "gaped" at the public photos so far and some here think there is something wrong with

them doing so. To my fellow "gapers," you have the freedom to decide whether to view the photos or not. I even included an extremely hyperbolic title for the post (using the word) murderer to describe those in the photos so that anyone who disapproved of the title, could feel free to ignore the post. Some here at DU want to make that decision for you, I'm not one of them.
Lou

[EFerrari]

62. I agree with the NAACP and with Amnesty International

that this killing was grotesque and murder. As Martina said yesterday, my momma taught me to call things by their names.

[louslobbs]

67. Some choose to ignore reality when it hurts too much to face it or they think they might be part of

that reality which is grotesque or murderous. Not everyone can deal with reality and will give in to the voices in their heads (their own of course), telling themselves stories that help them to be with their true feelings. Your momma was right.
Best,
Lou

[lolly]

60. Wonder if any will be running for public office?

Or, more specifically, a more powerful public office?

In Georgia, they probably assumed that being labeled "soft on crime" would hurt them politically, while having the "courage" to stand up to the ACLU would help.

Maybe posts like this can reverse that assumption.

[louslobbs]

68. Anything is possible in the world of politics. This might just be the feather in some of their caps

for future consideration for a more powerful public office, it wouldn't surprise me in the least. We now live in a country where a deluded vocal minority cheers for the number of murders by the state of Texas, cheers and yells for the death of the uninsured, and boos a gay soldier fighting in Iraq for asking a question about DADT.....that's just the short recent list. Nothing surprises or shocks me anymore and that in and of itself is really sad.
Thanks for the comment,
Lou

[sabrina 1]

64. I guess they were being 'pragmatic'!

A word I have come to hate, btw, since it is always attached to some otherwise despicable policies being pushed down our throats. Slapping a label on them to try to dress them up and make them look 'reasonable'.

We get what we deserve. These people would never have done what they did if they lived in a society that has evolved beyond the dark ages. The fact that they felt safe to do it, that they expected little negative reaction, means they understand that they live in a primitive society were executing a possibly innocent man is just fine. They were 'just following the law'.

It is more of a statement about this society that they had no fear of doing what they did, than it is even about them as individuals.

Something has gone terrible wrong in this country.

[louslobbs]

69. Yes, something has gone terribly wrong in this country and we can see it each day, as even our

government seems to have lost its fear of "We the People." The government seems to fear the corporations and the rich and powerful, rather than its people, so the government mainly does the bidding of that portion of the population with little regard for the rest of us. I don't think these board members did what was morally or legally correct, if they used their positions (which they could have used to stop the execution simply by using common sense), as a feather in their cap so to speak to potentially further their pathetic careers, then some people actually have become as out of touch with reality as I thought they had and are as sadistic as I thought they might be. One more thing, I feel so honored that you commented on my post, I honestly feel like we are friends even though we don't know each other and maybe that's because I agree with your positions on the major issues and love the way you "tell it like it is," the way you speak truth to power, after all, we are all in this together so it's nice to know we are both on the same side in this ugly battle. All the best my friend,
Lou

[sabrina 1]

71. Couldn't agree more Lou regarding the decision made by the board.

There is a lot of sadism throughout our sytem, see how we have and still are treating 'terror' detainees and how people cheer that abuse in this country. We have a former VP being treated like royalty on TV as he pushes torture as a policy and lies about its effectiveness. It is and should be sickening to see him given that platform without being subjected to some serious debate. But he is always one on one with one of the stenographers who will not dare to call him what he is, a war criminal.

I remember reading once about Nazi Germany and how sadism and sadistic sexual behavior rose and became acceptable and very popular, even with ordinary people, during the rise of the Third Reich. What would normally have been unacceptable, became almost the norm. I don't know if any studies have been done that could explain that.

:blush: thank you so much for your support, Lou. I feel the same way about your posts. Some things are not always popular, but if people don't keep pointing out the wrongs, regardless of how popular they are, they will become the norm. I think in a way they already have. And I do feel like I know you too. One of the things I loved about the internet, and thought was so interesting, when I first started on political forums, was that often you knew nothing about someone, even gender, ethnicity, age, social status, all the things that in RL often influence how people view each other, but what comes through without those factors, is the most important thing about a person, how they think. It's changed a bit now, people do reveal more about themselves, but I thought it was very interesting how you could relate to people knowing only how they think! And whenever I met someone from online, I was never disappointed in RL. Take care and keep doing what you're doing! :hi:

[louslobbs]

72. I see you were blushing lol......so was I.....Thank you for your thoughtful and caring post Sabrina.

Your friend,
Lou