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banned from Kos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 06:23 PM
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Reality check - any primary challenge would be completely ignored by Obama
So there would be no debate/discussion or anything like it. NO REAL DIALOG IN OTHER WORDS! Take your perennial loser like Kucinich, Gravel, McKinney, etc -- why give them the time of day? Is Randall Terry worthy of debate?

And would a legit 2016 hopeful REAL candidate like Senator Gillibrand primary him? OF COURSE NOT. 2016 is hers if she chooses.


(disclosure-- I support Gillibrand in 2016)
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 06:28 PM
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1. Unless they get traction. nt
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 06:31 PM
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2. Which they won't...nt
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 06:46 PM
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4. Hosni Mubarek had an iron grip on power
He was gone in a few weeks. Same with Algeria, the Soviet Union and all manner of governments that wage war on their working class. They are suddenly history.

It happened in the US in 1933: thank God that Democrats were there to pick up the pieces. I hope (real) Democrats pick up the pieces this time, too.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 06:50 PM
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5. You have a wonderfully active fantasy life. nt
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 06:53 PM
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8. I read a lot of history, do you? Are you saying that these regimes did not suddenly end?
Or what are you saying?
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:16 PM
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9. Likely, it'll take several hundred million dollars to mount a formidable primary challenge.
And to be on the safe side, one may probably need a billion dollars. It's expensive to run a national campaign.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:51 PM
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10. I'm saying equating the two things is laughable.
You might as well say that because an earthquake can hit Japan, that means it's perfectly reasonable to expect a volcano to form in the middle of New York City.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 06:31 PM
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3. A primary would be a waste of time and money for the Democratic Party.
What would be smart for Obama and the Democrats is to schedule some very hi-profile QA/debate forums where the issues can be discussed, maybe with Democratic voter participation via the internet - I'd love to see Democrats vote on the topics to be discussed and provide feedback by voting on the solutions offered. Give fellow up and coming Democrats some facetime to a national audience.

We don't want to have Republicans suck up all of the media oxygen in the run-up to the GE.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 06:52 PM
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6. Off topic, but if I may ask, where are you from?
I'm trying to figure out if you're one of the Gillibrand 2016 types I may have interacted with elsewhere.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 06:53 PM
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7. A primary challenge would do more for the GOP than anyone else
Why does no one see this?

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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:51 PM
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11. Ralph Nader certainly sees it.
He's rushing out to try and maximize value for his owners.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 07:55 PM
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12. 2016 is way to far out for anyone to have a lock on it

assuming it is hers if she wants it has no basis in reality
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banned from Kos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 08:17 AM
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13. I didn't say "lock" but the important point is that from a strategic
perspective of "moving Obama left" a primary would be worthless because it would be ignored.
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-11 08:22 AM
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14. They should be ignored by all of us. nt
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