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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:21 PM Original message |
Ralph Nader hasn't done shit since writing "Unsafe at any Speed"! Except for .... |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. Ditto |
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UnrepentantLiberal (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
201. Ralph Nader's Skeleton Closet |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 08:48 AM Response to Reply #201 |
219. Yup, that's what I'm talking about. And why did he attack Gore so viciously |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. Thanks. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. So you think that Obama has destroyed his own presidency because of incompetence and |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. I do. He should have came in strong demanding far reaching reforms based upon the Nordic model |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
114. Ding ding ding! To say he didn't want it makes him either weak... |
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1StrongBlackMan (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
123. Kindly ... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 12:26 AM Response to Reply #123 |
154. Bullshit argument. The way to get positive movement is to insist on |
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1StrongBlackMan (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 09:54 PM Response to Reply #154 |
202. No ... |
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nxylas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #202 |
226. Was that post translated into English using Babelfish? |
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1StrongBlackMan (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 11:30 PM Response to Reply #226 |
234. Okay ... |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 03:39 AM Response to Reply #234 |
242. Yet, Republicans keep presenting plans that should have no chance of working and |
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1StrongBlackMan (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #242 |
247. What plans ... |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-25-11 10:08 PM Response to Reply #247 |
248. Plans: Tax cuts, tax cuts, and more tax cuts - coupled with deregulation. n/t |
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1StrongBlackMan (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-26-11 09:41 PM Response to Reply #248 |
249. Fail! |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #249 |
250. A tax cut is a tax cut no matter how you justify it. |
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1StrongBlackMan (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 11:38 PM Response to Reply #226 |
235. Now ... |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
136. Nice summation, and a very concise way with words. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 10:25 PM Response to Reply #136 |
204. Sure, be my guest. |
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trueblue2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 02:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
227. YOU R WRONG!!! IT IS NOT THE PRESIDENT'S FAULT |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 11:41 PM Response to Reply #227 |
236. Yes it was. He choose to start his bargaining from a weak moderate position, |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. What kind of Faux News question is that? |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. Ralph Nader can help keep Obama in office. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. And Ross Perot was responsible for Clinton. I expect you bemoaned his candidacy, as well. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
131. 300,000 "Democrats" in Florida voting for Bush "helped" ... John Roberts fascist GOP-sponsored rally |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. You want Rick Perry to win in 2012? |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
27. No. In fact I'm waiting |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Good idea. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
133. No -- I want Sen. Bernie Sanders for President -- he's a better democract than |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
56. I hope that is not going to be the incentive for people to vote |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 12:58 AM Response to Reply #56 |
75. Bullshit. It is a PERFECT reason to get the fuck off your ass and vote. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:37 PM Response to Reply #75 |
135. More FEAR-BASED reasoning -- ? We only push Dem Party and Congress to the right when |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 01:04 AM Response to Reply #135 |
156. Wrong!! We allow the congress to go to the right by not voting! |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 03:45 AM Response to Reply #156 |
243. Bullshit. I live in a purple district and my Rep won re-election. The lesser of two evils only |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #75 |
189. Yes, that is exactly what 'hope' had done. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 02:27 AM Response to Reply #75 |
240. So do tell me, how was the second Carter Administration? |
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1StrongBlackMan (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #56 |
124. Why??? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #124 |
191. Have you taken a look at the 'real world' lately, a direct result |
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era veteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 12:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
76. BINGO |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:19 AM Response to Reply #2 |
91. I don't think that the one is predicated on the other... |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 12:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
155. May the best man win. So far that is Nader by all accounts. n/t |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. Recced up to zero or some negative number.. n/t |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
5. I didn't know a great deal of that. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
6. Deleted message |
chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
44. Never hear them howling about |
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YellowCosmicSun (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
7. Naderite in Democrat's clothing? |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Unfashionable Democrats in Ralph Nader's clothing? |
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YellowCosmicSun (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. Ralph Nader is not a Democrat. Those who cast their allegiance with him aren't either. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Deleted message |
defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
143. Nader -- like Sen. Bernie Sanders -- is a better Democrat than most of our Democrats -- !! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 10:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
149. Ralph Nader backed Obama for the nomination --- !!! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Keep denigrating liberal heroes and you die on your knees. |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. liberal heroes. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:03 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. So, you've met Nader, eh? And you've seen his bank account? Nice! |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:14 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. Couldn't think of anything, huh? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. No really. I want evidence that Nader got rich off his campaign. I want evidence |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:27 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Do I look like I'm running from |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:30 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. You haven't answered the question. That is running away. |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. Common sense |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 12:04 AM Response to Reply #62 |
70. As I expected. A non-answer. I didn't expect you to google. Perhaps you have a child that can help |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 07:25 AM Response to Reply #70 |
86. See post #46. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #86 |
94. Bobbie Jo, your irrational allegiance to party over sensible accomplishment and dedication |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #94 |
103. "irrational allegiance" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #103 |
107. Deleted message |
LiberalLovinLug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #103 |
183. You assumptions are pitiful |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 06:30 PM Response to Reply #183 |
198. I have an opinion |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 12:56 AM Response to Reply #198 |
215. dupe -- |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #53 |
168. Poster suggested ... "he abandoned his calling to feed his bank account" -- hmmm..... |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #168 |
199. Poster suggested.... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 01:01 AM Response to Reply #199 |
216. You made a claim -- "he abandoned his calling to feed his bank account" -- evidence of that? |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #216 |
221. Again.... |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
111. I think |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 02:41 AM Response to Reply #52 |
241. Argumentum ad Hominen |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
144. You're underinformed on Nader -- most of what we know about government corruption we know |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 08:32 AM Response to Reply #144 |
160. Ah... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 03:33 PM Response to Reply #160 |
166. Are you saying obama didn't put Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid "on the table" ... ???? |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 05:04 PM Response to Reply #166 |
178. Please point out where I made |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #178 |
182. Where? In yet another of your non-response-responses ... ROFL |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 06:19 PM Response to Reply #182 |
196. I didn't create the |
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Wind Dancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 10:37 PM Response to Reply #196 |
207. It's not possible to debate..... |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #207 |
208. Hooo....that took guts |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 12:36 AM Response to Reply #196 |
213. Did Nader put Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid "on the table" -- ? |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #213 |
224. Okay.. |
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YellowCosmicSun (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
29. Ralph Nader stinks. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. An amazing witty and deep analysis. I look forward to the mentally |
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YellowCosmicSun (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:58 PM Response to Reply #40 |
69. I had to get on your level. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 01:03 AM Response to Reply #40 |
78. LOL. |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
12. Sounds like the Manchurian Candidate to me! LOL N/T |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
15. Nader's done some good stuff in his life, yes...... |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:38 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. How about Ross Perot. He gave us Clinton. Were you also railing against him |
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Kurmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
54. That would be silly, anytime you keep a Bush-Repug out of office, it saves lives. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #54 |
169. ROFL--- so you only want to stop third party rights when they interfere with your candidate? |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. But Republicans gave a lot of money, millions, to John Kerry's campaign and not much to Nader. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #21 |
172. Democrats took money from RW Koch Bros, criminal Pfizer and Chevron ... and from Repugs ....!! |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:51 AM Response to Reply #15 |
96. Nader didn't steal the election. Five US Supreme Court justices did. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #96 |
112. Oddly... |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #96 |
164. True, but...... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #164 |
173. That's not true -- 3,000 and more votes went to Buchanan on a Dem-designed butterfly ballot ... |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #173 |
209. True, the Supreme Court being stocked with CONservatives didn't help either. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #209 |
232. Nonsense ... Gore left the DLC after the "anti-populist" demands they made on him ... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
171. It wasn't a "close call" -- Gore actually WON the election, no matter how you count the votes ... |
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savannah43 (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 10:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
203. The Supreme Court APPOINTED Bush to the presidency. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
16. B, but he is secretly working to enact the Republican agenda!!! |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. So Nader's a secret right-wingnut! Thanks for the info. Who wouda thunk? |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:48 PM Original message |
LOL |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
17. And Obama is a socialist born in Kenya. |
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Kennah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 02:33 AM Response to Reply #17 |
82. You forgot secret muslim, anti-colonialist, and he stole a man's penis! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 10:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
145. Don't think a "socialist" would have put Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid "on the table" -- !!! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
22. Wait |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. Yes and Obama praised Poppy Sr. and said he idolizes Ronald Raygun. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:51 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Hmmmm? |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:58 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Just pointing out your hypocrisy for all to see. |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:54 AM Response to Reply #34 |
97. They're going to develop carpal tunnel from all that cutting and pasting quotes. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
138. Obama stopped COLA's and put Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid "on the table" ... not NADER!! |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
148. LOL! That kinda reads like your collection of Obama lists. |
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Mira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
25. Thank You. Timely, Needed, and recommended. n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
28. and taking GOP money to compete against the democrat. nt |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Facts vs. Fiction: Republican Contributions: $10.7 Million for Kerry vs. $111,700 for Nader |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. You and those DAM FACTS! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. So |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:09 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Prove that Nader's Republican donations came from organizations who sought to |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
113. Uhm |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:36 AM Response to Reply #33 |
93. Giving money to Kerry and giving it to Nader were quite different things |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:31 PM Response to Reply #93 |
132. That's right. Good point! They were two different candidates. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 04:44 PM Response to Reply #33 |
174. Ah, facts -- thank you -- !!! |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
38. No Nader Pavlovian response here. |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
42. Where are the reports of Nader attacking current Republican policies and tactics? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Perhaps you need to get out more often. |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Or even watch Lawrence O'Donnell's interview with him. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:34 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Thank you! I hope to catch it later. |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:36 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Everything he said was true. |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:57 AM Response to Reply #51 |
98. And, he attacks them a lot when he's on Democracy Now. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #51 |
104. Exactly! |
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Zorro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 12:38 AM Response to Reply #47 |
73. Hmmm. Here's what your hyperlink returns |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:36 PM Response to Reply #42 |
60. Good point. I haven't heard any. |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #60 |
99. It's all around. Do your own digging. |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
43. ...... |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. That's a broad accusation. Could you be more specific? |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. definitions. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. So, you apply all of them to the OP or did you have a point? |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:43 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. What does that even mean? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 12:11 AM Response to Reply #63 |
71. Apparently, I have to start slowly. |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 05:49 AM Response to Reply #71 |
85. Apparently, you have to make sense. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #71 |
175. You're wasting your time -- |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #175 |
200. Tag...you're it! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 07:36 AM Response to Reply #200 |
217. Tag -- you're on IGNORE -- Bye -- !! |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #217 |
225. Finally. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 03:50 AM Response to Reply #63 |
244. Did YOU have a point? |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
57. OH GOD!!! It's the NADER LIST!!!... |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:45 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. Exactly when did Nader go from Liberal Icon to Persona non grata? |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:51 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Never. Don't pay any attention to the thin sliver of people here |
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YellowCosmicSun (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 01:17 AM Response to Reply #64 |
80. He was never an Icon in anybody's mind but his own. Did you vote for him in 2000 or something? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 02:54 AM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Deleted sub-thread |
Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 10:02 AM Response to Reply #80 |
101. You should read the references in the OP. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 04:59 PM Response to Reply #80 |
177. Nader has long been an example of what anyone involved in government should be .... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 04:56 PM Response to Reply #64 |
176. Nader's attacks on their corporate funding and agendas - "the duopoly" -- |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:47 PM Response to Reply #57 |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
61. Simply correcting the record on this much |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
67. yes, he has done a hell of a lot of good |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 12:32 AM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Fortunately, for the Republicans, you've forgotten about voter intimidation...B |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 12:49 AM Response to Reply #72 |
74. and yet with all of that Gore + Nader still beat Bush |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #72 |
115. nice 1984 reference |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 01:16 AM Response to Reply #67 |
79. Exactly, just like 2004. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #67 |
180. Rather, anyone suggesting that .... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
68. Not to mention giving establishment Democrats a handy scapegoat for their failures. K&R |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 01:19 AM Response to Reply #68 |
81. +1 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #68 |
184. +1 -- |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
77. Ralph Nader's tribute to Howard Zinn (BookTV) |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 05:16 AM Response to Original message |
84. He doesn't actually organize, though |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 08:28 AM Response to Reply #84 |
89. When he does people call him a "control freak"!!!! |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 03:06 AM Response to Reply #89 |
158. He has never stayed with any organization he founded, so that accusation |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #158 |
185. Nader has continued to support the organizations he helped found ... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #185 |
197. Claybrook on Nader |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 12:23 AM Response to Reply #197 |
211. Claybrook is simply addressing the "spoiler" issue .... |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
87. He looks like shit |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 05:52 PM Response to Reply #87 |
117. So who do you think represents more liberal ideas on TV. Obama or Nader? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 12:26 AM Response to Reply #87 |
212. "Pretty is as pretty does" --- |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
88. Where'd you cut and paste that list from?... |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
90. I get such a kick out of the frequent 2 minute hate |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:27 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Just a short break from the 24/7 hate machine. |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
95. What I hear him saying is that a primary race would allow for public |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 05:53 PM Response to Reply #95 |
118. What "jobs bill" are you writing about? |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 11:19 PM Response to Reply #118 |
153. All the speeches he is making about "pass this bill". |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #95 |
188. Good point .... |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
100. K & R !!! - Thank You !!! |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
102. Rec because it's important to support reformers even if we don't plan to vote for them. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 04:58 PM Response to Reply #102 |
116. Gore should have offered him an office |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 06:02 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. +1 |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #119 |
162. Thank you. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #116 |
120. If Gore had been allowed to take the office he was elected to fill, maybe that would have happened. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #116 |
127. Attorney General Ralph Nader -- !! Love it -- |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:47 PM Response to Reply #116 |
141. Gore never got that opportunity, but in retrospect Clinton probably should have |
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CanSocDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
105. Great post.... |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
106. Dear Ralph: Please go f yourself. Thank you, Thinking Leftists. nt |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #106 |
128. if you call that thinking |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:25 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. wrong place |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:34 PM Response to Reply #106 |
134. Others might describe such folks as "counterfeit liberals" rather than "thinking leftists." |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 08:22 AM Response to Reply #134 |
159. I worked for Nader in college. He's a meglomaniac. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #159 |
190. And did Nader fire you? |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 08:45 AM Response to Reply #190 |
218. I worked for free. Kinda hard to fire a volunteer. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #218 |
231. I would guess that any "volunteer" with that much animosity for Nader .... |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 05:03 PM Response to Reply #231 |
246. I didn't have animosity for him until I saw how he really was. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
108. You-u-u! |
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Hun Joro (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
109. Thank you! So tired of the pointless Nader-bashing. |
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libinnyandia (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
110. Ralph Nader's legacy |
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one_true_leroy (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
121. You forgot _Still Life With Woodpecker_! |
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blue neen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
122. No problems with Nader here. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
125. K&R! n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
126. Thanks -- pretty much everything we know about criminal capitalism and corrupt |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #126 |
137. He gave a big assist to everyone wanting to get the uncounted ballots in |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 10:02 PM Response to Reply #137 |
146. Exactly -- we've had more fightback on election corruption from Nader than from Dem Party -- !!! |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
130. REC... point made.... actions, not slogans |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
139. I'm going to throw it out there that both sides of the Nader debate have a point |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 10:06 PM Response to Reply #139 |
147. The both sides argument doesn't work here either ... Those who voted for Nader would NOT |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 10:45 PM Response to Reply #147 |
152. Exit polls show that some of them would've voted for Gore, some for Bush, some stayed home |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #152 |
165. "Some"...??? Some for Gore/Some for Bush -- so where does that leave you...??? |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 05:04 PM Response to Reply #165 |
179. Did you read my post or just the subject line? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #179 |
192. I read your post ... did you read mine? |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #192 |
195. I did, I don't understand your argument about the 300,000 Democrats who voted for Bush |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 11:59 PM Response to Reply #195 |
210. If 300,000 "Democrats" in Florida voted for W ... how is Nader responsible for W's "win" ... ??? |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #210 |
220. well done... I really Wish People Would Stop Using Nader as the Patsy |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #210 |
228. Again, where did I assert that Nader was responsible for W's "win" |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #228 |
233. ROFL ... Now you want to deny that's what you've been suggesting .... |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 01:56 AM Response to Reply #233 |
238. Did you read post #147 that you linked to? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 02:06 AM Response to Reply #238 |
239. What you're missing . . . |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-24-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #239 |
245. And this is precisely why we can't have productive discussion on DU |
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Logical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
140. THANK YOU! I love that this PISSED OFF the Nader haters!! |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
142. LOL! I see you kicked the hive. |
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Bobbie Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #142 |
163. Gee...wasn't that the point? |
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zentrum (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
150. Irrelevant. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
151. He's a better Democrat than 90% of all Democrats. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 12:38 AM Response to Reply #151 |
214. +1 -- and KICK -- |
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zeos3 (912 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 03:02 AM Response to Original message |
157. KICK! |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
161. I think he might actually be overqualified to be president. |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #161 |
170. +1 n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #161 |
193. +1000% --- !!! |
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CanSocDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
167. Kickin'....eom |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
181. And he blew all that to become far less than nothing. Amazing. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #181 |
187. 3 million people voted for Nader who couldn't support Leiberman or Bush. That's more than nothing! |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #187 |
222. It sounds like those three million got what they wanted |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 05:46 PM Response to Reply #181 |
194. Nader didn't "blow" anything --- Dem Party was smarting from corporate "duopoly" criticism by Nader |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
186. Was someone attempting to suggest Nader is a do nothing guy?? |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
205. Clever, BBI! |
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mirrera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
206. I am not allowed to rec but I can kick... |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
223. thank you |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
229. He's done more regarding legisltation than most actual legislators. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
230. Nader was "instrumental" in gifting the nation w/Bush II & thus "helped" Americans to financial ruin |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
237. And a donut gets lots of reaction before it ends up in the gut of a coffee drinking |
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