I just watched The Pat Tillman Story on HBO...

[CoffeeCat]

Ok, this movie should come with a support group.

It's horrendously depressing. The lies. The way the military
used Tillman's death to further their warmongering -- when in fact,
Tillman returned from Iraq completly against the war.

I didn't know that he was involved in the Jessica Lynch theater,
which later proved to be more military theatrics used to
propagate the neocon wet dreams of more war and prolonged war.

Makes you want to hurl a lung.

I was very impressed with the Tillman family. The letter Pat Tillman's
father wrote to the military, after the case was closed, was classic.
Tillman's father signed, "Fuck you and yours" at the end. This obviously
intimidated the military into a new investigation. Yes, it was a whitewash,
but at least Tillman's father spoke truth to power.

I was also struck at how effortlessly our media leverages the slogans and
spun tales for our corrupt government and military. Our media is the PR
arm of these criminals. Hell, they hide soldier deaths, but they turned
Pat Tillman's memorial service into a PR blitz bonanza. They turned his
death into a trade-show venue in which they could market their war.

What bothers me further, is that we don't know why the soldiers kept firing
on Tillman until his head was gone. Two soldiers alongside Tillman lived.
It was as if they went after Tillman on purpose. Also, one of the soldiers
who was next to Tillman when he died said that the entire story about the
behavior of the soldiers who shot at Tillman-was a lie. Those soldiers claimed
that they were shooting from a moving vehicle. This soldier said he specifically
saw the vehicle stopped and shooting at them--at least twice.

Video that shows the vehicle moving appears to be completely concocted. One can't
help but wonder if this wasn't a targeted murder. Unless I missed something, I didn't
see any interviews with those soldiers who were shooting at Tillman. Have they
ever said anything?

This was a difficult one to watch and process. Certainly no new news came from this
documentary. It was just hard to watch and to grasp how corrupt our government
has become.

The Congressional hearings were a farce. Shame on Waxman. They allowed Rumsfeld and
those other generals to get away with obvious lies.

Just another documentary that highlights how psychopathic and sick these criminals are,
and how they escape accountability like slippery reptiles.

[Eddie Haskell]

1. Their lies have become habitual.

Do they ever tell the truth?

[CoffeeCat]

6. I'm just astounded...

...because they lie and even after the lies are exposed--they all escape accountability.

Rumsfeld and all of those generals were called to Congress to explain why they all
remained silent and played along--when clearly they knew that Tillman did not die as
the military had officially stated.

The P4 memo that someone leaked to the Associated Press--demonstrated that all of those
generals, including Stanley McChrystal, top commander of US forces in Afghanistan, READ
and RECEIVED that memo.

They all testified in Congress that they "couldn't remember" or "couldn't recall" when they
received that memo. It was totally bizarre that Waxman and the rest of the enablers
allowed them to get away with that.

Even when the lies are exposed--there is no accountability or long-term damage for these
thugs. They're all enjoying life, writing books and going about their business even though
everyone knows that they lied about Tillman's death in order to market the war.

[arcane1]

2. I can't imagine a scenario where this wasn't murder

Can't have him coming back to the states, meeting up with Noam Chomsky, and telling the world the Iraq war was bullshit, can we?

How many times does a fallen soldier have his uniform and freakin' JOURNAL burned by the troops that survived? :shrug:

[CoffeeCat]

8. I'm betting that Tillman...

...and his anti-Iraq war views were known by his comrades in Afghanistan. Maybe
he journaled about how bogus Iraq was or maybe he even spoke about it. He sure
discussed it with friends and family when he returned from Iraq.

An anti-Iraq Tillman could have derailed their plans. Seriously. He was the most
famous soldier in that war, and very respected and loved by all. He had it all and
he was a true American hero.

He most likely would have gone into politics and that could have really stopped all
of the neocons in their tracks.

Look at the effect that John Kerry had after the Vietnam war. Tillman's effect on
the Iraq war would have been even more powerful, especially if he decided to run for
office. Plus, Tillman was very bright--3.8 gpa in college. The real deal.

Couldn't have that, now could they?

[AtomicKitten]

3. The Big Lie was self-serving and cruel to the family. Jessica Lynch 2.0. Ugh.

[duhneece]

4. Let the courage of Pat's dad inspire us to speak truth to power

Let us be inspired to not give up.

[RegieRocker]

5. The government doesn't lie. Every aspect of everything they release

is absolute truth. 9/11 is a perfect example. This it's just more conspiracy theory.
:sarcasm:

[Eddie Haskell]

10. 911 is a perfect example.

Instead of the magic bullet, we get the magic passport. It's the same fucking thing.

[BlueIris]

7. I really loved that film.

And yes, it should come with a support group.

[bvar22]

9. ...AND,

...the Tillman Story is merely one kernel in the whole bushel of LIES we are fed by our government/media on a daily basis.
This particular episode of distortion, propaganda, and lies is NOT the exception.
It IS The RULE.


You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.

Solidarity!
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[Warren DeMontague]

11. 'course, they covered up the fact that he was an Atheist, too.

understandable, of course, since there are so many of us intolerant Atheist extremists running around saying bigoted, hurtful, anti-Christian things like "I don't believe in (your) God"