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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 10:34 AM
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West Hollywood bans sale of fur clothing
West Hollywood bans sale of fur clothing

WEST HOLLYWOOD (KABC) -- The city of West Hollywood has approved a ban on the sale of fur clothing. It's a big win for animal rights activists and the first ordinance of its kind in the U.S.

"You've got to start banning cruelty, you've got to start banning horrors that are happening to these animals just for the name of vanity or profit," said Chris DeRose of Last Chance For Animals.

Others aren't happy about the ban, saying it takes away freedom of choice.

"It's a matter of choice. And in this case, it's a matter of a city sticking to the initial principles of the founding fathers of the city, and it's a matter of democratic process," said Keith Kaplan of Fur Information Council of America.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=8360921
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 10:35 AM
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1. So what the hell is Paris Hilton going to wear without undies?
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dtexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 10:43 AM
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2. Giving in to the PETAphiles.
I hope it's overturned by the courts.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 04:10 PM
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12. I hope it isn't. taking a baseball bat to the head of baby seals or
sticking an electrical current up the ass of an animal until they die so their fur won't be ruined is heinous. Go, West Hollywood.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 10:50 AM
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3. Why fur and not leather?
That's a serious question. Are animals raised and killed for fur treated worse than cows? Is it that they are furry and 'cuter'? ?
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Kalidurga Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 11:11 AM
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4. I suppose they haven't banned the sale of meat....
like you say they ban fur but not leather and why not ban meat as well?
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 12:11 PM
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5. Because the fur-bearing animals suffer a horrendous death.
Got check it out at PETA. I gave away all the furs I had years ago. And that was even before I became a vegetarian.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 01:04 PM
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6. That was my question.
I'd rather not 'go check out peta' but I'd really like to hear the difference between how animals for fur are killed vs. how cows and other farm animals are killed.

I mean that question in all sincerity and not as a challenge.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 11:46 AM
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16. OK. If you won't go to PETA. here is a little info from the site:
Whether it came from an animal on a fur farm or one who was trapped in the wild, every fur coat, trinket, and bit of trim caused an animal tremendous suffering—and took away a life.

Animals on fur farms spend their entire lives confined to cramped, filthy wire cages. Fur farmers use the cheapest and cruelest killing methods available, including suffocation, electrocution, gas, and poison.

More than half the fur in the U.S. comes from China, where millions of dogs and cats are bludgeoned, hanged, bled to death, and often skinned alive for their fur. Chinese fur is often deliberately mislabeled, so if you wear any fur, there's no way of knowing for sure whose skin you're in.
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AngkorWot Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 02:53 PM
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11. As opposed to the animals killed for leather or meat?
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 01:31 PM
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7. How are the in people going to be fabulous without fur?
Seriously, this is PC and PETA run amuck. Few can even afford fur these days.

Have to check the actual wording but does this mean Uggs are not longer legal there too?
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 01:56 PM
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8. So the jet set will drive a few miles from West Hollywood
to Beverly Hills in their Bentleys to get their fur coats. A meaningless gesture.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 01:59 PM
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9. That matter of choice - ie the freedom to rape, pillage, oppress, brutalize etc...
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 02:52 PM
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10. I don't necessarily approve of wearing fur, but can a city do this?
I don't even believe bans on cigarette rolling papers are right.

It shouldn't be up to the municipality what merchants sell if it isn't an illegal product according to federal law. If no one wants to buy fur items, they won't be for sale.
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 11:33 AM
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14. Thats a good question, its clearly not a federal crime after all to own furs
Edited on Wed Sep-21-11 11:33 AM by cstanleytech
and theres nothing in the constitution that specifically denies people the right to own items made of fur the last time I checked.
Will be interesting to see if the courts decide the city has overstepped its bounds in banning something thats perfectly legal otherwise.
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Angleae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 05:07 PM
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17. Cities ban things all the time.
Alcohol in the deep south and Alaska, firearms in NYC/Chicago, and recently disposable grocery bags. Sometimes the bans are declared unconstitutional (usually vs firearms), sometimes the bans are upheld.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 04:36 PM
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13. Good!!! nt
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 11:35 AM
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15. I wholeheartedly approve!
I've got no problem with meat or leather (as a byproduct of meat processing), but to kill an animal solely for fur in our society is a travesty.
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Abin Sur Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 05:10 PM
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18. One of the more absurd laws I've heard of in some time.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-11 06:22 PM
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19. Fantastic.
Nice job out there in West Hollywood.
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