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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 09:05 AM
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Centrist Dems Already Trying To Put The Brakes On Obama’s Tax Increases
Edited on Tue Sep-20-11 09:06 AM by chill_wind


Centrist Dems Already Trying To Put The Brakes On Obama’s Tax Increases
Susan Crabtree | September 20, 2011, 6:03AM


President Obama's deficit-reduction plan--complete with tax increases on the wealthiest Americans--won high marks from his liberal base encouraged to see Obama back in fighting mode, but the plan is set to hit a brick wall in Congress -- even in the Democratically controlled Senate and the bipartisan super committee.

Moderate Senate Democrats are signaling strong resistance to tax increases in the President's deficit-reduction plan, and the early disapproval within his own party will no doubt give Republicans on the deficit super committee plenty of cover to block any and all revenue-raising aspects of Obama's plan.

Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE) told reporters Monday night that he's put off by all the talk about increasing taxes when he believes the primary and only goal of the deficit super committee should be finding cuts to hack away at the deficit.

"Tax increases have to come second to cutting," he said. "I was just home over the weekend and that's what we're all talking about."



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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 09:06 AM
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1. The Benator never disappoints.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 04:19 PM
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18. And then people insist that we could have passed single-payer healthcare.
Despite every single Democrat having an effective veto on it thanks to the Republican filibuster.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 04:39 PM
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20. Actually...
Schmucks like Nelson provided cover to the Republican fillibusters at times and have always been in the way of progressive change and reform. He embraces the policies of Bush even after the nation soundly rejected them. We would be better off if he joined the Republicans as he provides nothing to the Democrats save disappointment and resistance and uses up one of our seats on the finance committee for pro-bankster BS and the continuation of conservative supply sider tax cut nonsense.

Moreover politically at least we would know where we stand and have solid numbers that we could rely on.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 09:11 AM
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2. These are not "centrist" Democrats. They're conservative/right-wing Democrats.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 01:59 PM
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14. +1,000
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 02:03 PM
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15. I think anyone would be hard pressed to find anything Democratic they believe in.
I would not call them Democrats at all...
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 04:55 PM
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25. Lets be honest here...they're NOT really even Democrats.
DLC New Democrats ~ Republicans
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 09:11 AM
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3. Let's see, should I trust Warren Buffett on economic matters or Ben Nelson and George Bush?
Decisions, decisions.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 09:12 AM
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4. Ben Nelson to the rescue..
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 06:29 PM
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34. Sadly true, but funny cartoon. nt
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 09:14 AM
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5. When was the last time the rest of the Dem Senators gave Nelson a Swirly in the mens restroom? nt
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 09:15 AM
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6. Well, this Centrist Democrat is all FOR his tax increases on the wealthy n/t
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 09:17 AM
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7. Fucking DINO...
...you can always rely on Ben....:eyes:
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 06:31 PM
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35. Democrats in Nebraska must get an electable democrat to defeat Nelson. nt
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 09:24 AM
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8. With friends like these, who needs enemies. Why they bother
to call themselves Democrats is beyond me.

I hope they remember it was Democrats of their
group who were swept out of office in 2010.

If given a choice between a real Republican
and a fake Republican, the people will choose
the real thing.

Authenticity is the key. When a person is not
even loyal to his/her own party, the American
people will turn them out on the ear. Americans
are looking for leaders who believe in something
and have the convictions to stand for those convictions.

Democrats can be fiscally responsible and explain
how they will correct the deficit situation. It
is like triaging a terrible accident. First they
stop the bleeding, attend to heart conditions, then
move to the other patients.

We must stop the bleeding of jobs. Then they must
get some revenues as well as cuts in spending. The
Pro Business Democrats had better get on board
or they might not be around. They are condemining
themselves to trash heap of history by throwing
the Middle class under the bus. Staying hidden
in Beltway Bubble keeps them from grasping what
is going on in the states.

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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 09:27 AM
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9. And people wonder why Obama hasn't been able to get more done?
when he not only has to contend with the republicans but also the DINO's.
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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 04:42 PM
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21. D*mn they piss me off.......
:mad: :grr:
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 09:37 AM
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10. Will Obama scold them like he scolds his progressive critics?
:shrug:
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 01:09 PM
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13. Fair question.
eom
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 09:40 AM
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11. One of his fellow colleagues needs to have a little talk with him in the men's room.
He should NOT be allowed to hold us hostage with his shilling for his wealthy benefactors.

F*ck him!
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 09:41 AM
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12. Naturally he didn't provide the full details on his weekend at home.
How many were talking about it and where was this all happening?

On local radio station yesterday former Congressman Lee Hamilton pointed out that when he was out talking with his constituents in the 20 county area that it was usually the same few.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 03:47 PM
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16. Nelson's not the only problem among them
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 04:10 PM
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17. Nelson?

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mfcorey1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 04:22 PM
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19. It is time for Florida to kick Nelson's butt to the right where he belongs!
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 04:45 PM
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23. What does Florida have to do with it?
This asshole is from Nebraska.
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mfcorey1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 05:23 PM
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28. My bad. Wrong Nelson. nt
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 05:56 PM
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29. So?

It would still be nice if Florida, or anyone else, kicked him in the butt.

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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 06:19 PM
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30. Heh. Agreed.
Anyone kicking that puppet in the ass would be nice.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 04:43 PM
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22. sons of bitches...
Republicans!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 04:45 PM
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24. Get those people OUT OF THE PARTY! They do more harm than good.
Ben Nelson. Surprise. Surprise. Same-old-shit.
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 06:37 PM
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36. This, I agree with. Nelson has been a constant problem and has prevented passage
of historical policy. I am generally not for democrats primarying democrats, but I make an exception for Ben Nelson of Nebraska. I hate channeling Nader, but in the case of Ben Nelson, a republican could not be much worse. My hope is that our side get a sound, democrat sitting in the seat that Nelson now holds.
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 05:20 PM
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26. how can they be called moderates? it's such a TINY increase in taxes on the richest
they are extremists
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 05:21 PM
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27. They know what Obama really wants
O wants to be for shared sacrifice, without...
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Militant_Liberal Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 06:22 PM
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31. Centrist Dems, Blue Dogs, DLCers = PUB
They need to be run out of the Democratic Party just like the Dixiecrat's were back in the day.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 06:22 PM
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32. I'm not thrilled about Baucus' appointment to the so-called Super Committee.
I have every confidence he will at the very least insert a poison pill or two.
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 06:25 PM
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33. I am a centrist that has crossed swords with progressives here on DU.
Under no circumstances would I make any other choice. But I was so happy with the tone that President Obama took on Monday that after I stopped wetting my shorts from joy, I contributed to his campaign after purposely holding off. My point is screw so called moderates that think that drawing a line against political terror is bad, screw them. Some like Penn are using words like class warfare and unfair tax increases, absolutely fuck them if they think that way.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-11 06:41 PM
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37. it's like House of Mirrors with liars
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