This president has a history

[Stinky The Clown]

In light of the current talk of cuts to Medicare and Medicaid, I am instantly taken back to the run up to the passing of the healthcare "reform" bill. It started with Obama himself talking about plain old single payer. Lots of people like to deny that he ever spoke of this, but most us know, really, that just isn't the truth.

From there, we went to that wonderful, ill defined term, the "public option." That was the plan that was so vague that we were all free to imagine it smelling like roses. We still don't really know what it was, specifically. Yes, there are lots of places where it is purported to be defined, but, again, we all know it really was pretty amorphous.

So now we're on to Medicare and Medicaid.

There will be "negotiations" with Congress.

I have no confidence that Obama has peoples' back on this.

Groups of you will call this hand wringing. I call it a realistic assumption of one possible outcome.

[ixion]

1. realistic, indeed.

[laruemtt]

2. sadly so. n/t

[Coyote_Bandit]

3. Yes, indeed

I don't listen to this president because I can't believe him.

And since I can't believe him I don't trust him.

He has not been my champion.

Why should I expect that to change?

[theaocp]

5. Buy ACME, I guess? n/t

[Stinky The Clown]

6. Is that a Wile E. Coyote reference?

[theaocp]

8. What gave me away? n/t

[Coyote_Bandit]

9. ACME

is cheap imported Chinese crap made by kids working in a sweatshop.

Dangerous stuff and it doesn't work particularly well.

[Alameda]

4. I am on Medicare and I'd like to point out the fact that....

it only really covers "big box" medicine. IOW, if I want homeopathic, herbal, acupuncuture, I have to pay myself. I'm not really happy with that. I pay almost $100 for Medicare, but still spend $100 for Traditional Chinese Medicine, which includes acupuncture, diet, exercise and herbs. I have had better results with TCM than Big Box, but it comes out of my pocket.

[COLGATE4]

7. Unfortunately all too true.

[supraTruth]

10. Well if U sit on your hands, be ready for rick perry to give U & EVEN BIGGER SHAFT!

OR HELP ELECT A DEMOCRAT CONGRESS to HELP OBAMA KEEP HIS PROMISES TO US!

[Donnachaidh]

11. thought I smelled a dead horse in here

:eyes:

[supraTruth]

15. be ready for rick perry to give U an EVEN BIGGER SHAFT!

OR HELP ELECT A DEMOCRAT CONGRESS too to HELP OBAMA KEEP HIS PROMISES TO US!

[JNelson6563]

12. Frankly I call it "peral clutching"

and you're one of the best. Hats off to ya!!

Julie

[AtomicKitten]

21. Indeed.

Bravo!

[Stinky The Clown]

25. "Peral" clutching usual has to do with matters like porn or .....

.... Presidential blow jobs. That is not my concern with Obama .... Or anyone else.

Have a swell day, Julie. :hi:

[Zax2me]

13. He has our back.

I do have confidence in Obama.
It's the congress who does not have 'peoples' back.

[DirkGently]

14. The carefully parsed language is back. He won't allow the deficit to be born by ONLY the middle

class. He will veto any bill that reduces social benefits that doesn't ALSO increase taxes on the wealthy. Start at the wildly unbalanced status quo, then split things even Steven.

I hear people raising the tired "just wait" rationale. We will, because we have no choice. But the painfully precise language is no accident.

[cliffordu]

16. tap dancing as fast as you can, are ya???

:hurts:

[Stinky The Clown]

24. Actually it is one foot in front of the other

Sorry Clifford

[cliffordu]

28. I'm not - your cognitive dissonance is audible from here.

and I'm hard of hearing....

[PufPuf23]

17. POTUS Obama has lost the benefit out doubt about intentions for many. nt

[cliffordu]

31. Just as valid as saying "I had Tuna fish for lunch"

Really.

[PufPuf23]

34. Don't you read DU? We are political junkies,

many that have paid attention for decades or multiple generations.

I have given you a pass at DU for years. My life experience far surpasses yours as evidents because of your age and avatar.

Disappointed. Why insult me? We are one the same side I think.

[cliffordu]

35. LOL.....your life experience is subject to your own bloviation,

Thanks for giving me a pass, I will pass gas in your honor here in just a minute

:hurts:

Your grand prognostications are humorous, and little else.

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[bananas]

20. Obama: "I happen to be a proponent of single-payer universal health care"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE

edit to add: http://www.alternet.org/health/139959

[Stinky The Clown]

22. Man oh man but some people hate when that gets posted

They love to whine that he never favored single payer. But there it is. Again!

Thanks for posting that.

[Bluebear]

27. +

[cliffordu]

30. You are COMPLETELY right, Bluebear - AND, he's NEVER going to let DADT get overturned, either

that homophobic swine.

[leftstreet]

29. +1

[JoePhilly]

23. Obama was also never going to let DADT end ... I'm reminded of that today.

[blindpig]

26. Count on it.

Ya know it's a done deal, the theatrics will decide the final form.

The only question is whether the Republicans can get the TPs to go along with a miniscule symbolic hike in taxes on the wealthy, a trifle really, or if the 'Super' gets to wield the meat ax itself.

All of the powers in DC work against the people.

[cliffordu]

32. Ah, bullshit. Another fact free screed.

Yawn.

[Mimosa]

33. I remember and I BELIEVED, Stinky

Call me a sucker. :(