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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 05:30 AM
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I think one of our few chances of restoring the United States to the people
rests ultimately on our ability or inability to take down rightwing infrastruture. Of course, that infrastructure is what those forces that have taken over our country uses to divide our citizens and is as follows: it's political media such as Newscorp, ALEC, and its well funded think tanks as much as anything. Without these weapons their money has created, we could probably defeat them politically and all political discussion would not be framed into their deliberate falsehoods. Any suggestions on how we begin?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 05:33 AM
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1. Repeal the unPATRIOTic Act and MCA would be a good place to start
in my opinion.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 05:46 AM
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2. Can we do that without taking down the media part of their infrastructure
Edited on Mon Sep-19-11 05:47 AM by mmonk
that sows fear, dissention, and suspicion?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 06:09 AM
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3. in theory, yes
but admittedly it would be hard to do in practice. What we have in our favor is the internet.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 06:14 AM
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4. And they have the internet plus all that infrastructure.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 06:19 AM
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5. I didn't say it was going to be easy. ;)
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gulfbreeze Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 06:29 AM
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6. Teach critical thinking skills
There will always be another to take the place of the one dismantled. The only way to combat this is to teach others how to think critically. Then they are armed for a lifetime of these right-wing attacks in all their forms.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 08:50 AM
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7. We can't even get liberal radio or tv shows to last.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 09:45 AM
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8. We have a radio station near me that has lasted.
However, we have to somehow dismantle the lie machine which is bigger because of the money that backs it.
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bengalherder Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 10:21 AM
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9. Target younger people.
Young people don't listen to talk radio.

Talk radio is such a chimera. Perhaps it huge in the south, but mostly only older folk listen to it here. Most young folk I work with listen to Pandora or playlists...or classic rock, the lingua franca of the working world.

You just gotta keep make listening to talk radio the complete antithesis of young and hip and wait for the hateful old farts to die off, as they are, a few too slowly for most tastes. Doesn't seem too hard.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 12:21 PM
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10. I think an open source equivalent is one way to go
The right-wing machine is very money-dependent. Conservative foundations and donors give millions to the think-tanks, public policy institutes, legal foundations, and groups like ALEC. (Just check out the State Policy Network for a handy listing, since it's an umbrella organization of all these other groups.) And that's been their strength -- but it's also a potential weakness.

These groups and others that are loosely affiliated with the Heritage Foundation (specifically the Intercollegiate Studies Institute and Morton Blackwell's Leadership Institute) put a great deal of money and attention into promoting young conservatives at the college level. They subsidize right-wing college newspapers -- and often pick up on stories from those papers to feed their outrage. (All those "I got a D because my professor discriminates against conservatives" stories that show up on Fox News come out of this system.)

And both during and right after college, these young conservatives also get slotted into interning for Republican members of Congress or holding entry-level positions with these same think-tanks and foundations. They then enjoy rapid promotion, so that by the time they're in their late twenties, they're showing up on television as expert spokespeople -- at an age when their liberal counterparts are still scuffling along as assistant professors or community organizers.

But my real point is that the open-source software movement has shown us that a money-based system is not the only way to go. When people are passionate about what they do and are prepared to work together within an ethos of freedom from corporate domination, it's possible to achieve by cooperative effort anything that can be bought with money. And the results -- as any free software exponent will tell you -- tends to be stabler, more comprehensive, and more secure.

So I firmly believe that anything the right can do, we can do better -- and without marching in lock-step to get there. The main question, I think, is how to get organized -- first in terms of presenting a plausible front that gets you treated as experts by TV programs or newspapers that need someone to quote on an issue and secondly in terms of passing certain stories and memes up and down the structure so that they get maximum public exposure and don't just sputter out or get lost in the haze.

And there's something else. These think-tanks clearly have slews of people doing nothing but thinking up ways to game the system -- like this recent abomination about splitting up Pennsylvania's electoral votes. But there are people on the left who are equally capable of poring over legal codes and coming up with innovative ideas. Again, it's a matter of organization and promoting good ideas rather than letting them fizzle.

We're never going to have the level of funding and professionalism that the right does. But we have far greater resources of talent and creativity. They just haven't been hooked up in a think-tank / public policy institute / media spokesperson structure. And given the organizational tools of the Net, that's something we can now do without the big money. We can publish ourselves, make our own videos, and do anything the right can in a way that's freer, more authentic, and lots more fun.

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