War is not Liberation. Period.

[denem]

Link: http://www.oddee.com/item_66536.aspx

[denem]

1. cf.

Paris


Benghazi

[TheWraith]

2. I'll be sure to inform Generals Washington and De Gaulle. nt

[denem]

15. The OP is Nazi propaganda from 1944. See #1

[TheWraith]

18. Ah. I couldn't get the image to load. nt

[cali]

3. ever? really?

absolutism is generally pretty silly.

[denem]

13. Well ... The irony of posting a Nazi Propaganda poster

followed by the photos in #1 seems to have fallen flat

[pinboy3niner]

4. As one who hs been to war and seen--and felt--its horrors intimately, I am antiwar

But one thing I've come to understand is that there are things worth fighting for, and there are things worth dying for. Liberation is one of them.

[joshcryer]

5. IMO, war definitely is not liberation, but liberty cannot be gained without a battle.

Wars can be fought for liberty or for oppression, they can go either way.

The current battle that most people are fighting to attain liberty is a lack of clean drinking water, rampant disease, climate change. Disease, for example, kills one WWII worth of people every 5 years.

[pinboy3niner]

6. War CAN mean liberation for those who are oppressed

The current "battles" you list (perhaps "challenges" would be a better word) are not examples of state oppression, but they all are things that can lead, rightly or wrongly, to war.

International intervention (a term much-denigrated at the moment) is a way to to meet these challenges and--hopefully--to prevent unnecessary war.

Love & Peace,
pinboy3niner

[joshcryer]

7. I think we're in agreement.

:hi:

[pinboy3niner]

8. I never doubted it for a moment

:hi:

[DCBob]

9. oh dear, we will need to rewrite all history books with this new revelation.

[pinboy3niner]

10. :)

[patrick t. cakes]

11. the french would probably disagree...

as well as the "founding fathers" of the country you sleep peacefully in.

[denem]

12. See #1 :)

[patrick t. cakes]

17. gottcha

:toast:

[Nye Bevan]

14. It was for the inmates of Auschwitz (nt)

[denem]

16. "Arbeit macht frei" nt.

[DRoseDARs]

19. The American Revolutionaries would disagree. n/t

[TheKentuckian]

20. Period is a joke right?

[hobbit709]

21. That depends on whether you are the invader or the invadee.