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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 08:10 PM
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To the male DUers and their partners/spouses:
Edited on Fri Sep-16-11 08:11 PM by PCIntern
I want to take this opportunity to let you all know of something which is subtle for some, but not obvious to many. To backtrack 36 years, when I was a dental student we had a brilliant biochemistry professor who, before starting his lecture one day, informed the class that he was most concerned as a biochemist and a humanist of the indiscriminately long-term use of the birth control pill as it was formulated all those years ago. He showed us some concerns via equations and processes which led him to believe that reproductive cancers and infertility might wind up being a result of years of Pill usage. this had to do with hormone levels and dosage levels and side-effects at the cellular and DNA levels.
He may have been quite prescient.

He also was the gentleman who mentioned to us that it would be critical for us to watch our own health as carefully as we might ideally monitor that of a patient who presents with multiple conditions: that we can't really trust the medical establishment to be thorough enough to diagnose and detect in an early stage, major issues. But that we were fortunate that although we weren't physicians per se, we were well-educated in microbiology, immunology, pathology, and pharmacology sufficiently to read and understand most research and implications thereof.

So I'm going to cut to the chase and say that if you notice ANY change in your urinary habits, or anything at all 'weird' going on, go to your doctor and INSIST upon getting evaluated for the issue. I'm not going to say specifically what I'm going through: you can guess some of it, but there are other ramifications from it being quite possibly a long-standing issue, which were and are potentially bad news, although I have averted the likelihood of catastrophe - meaning the inability to post here on DU of course.

"Denial" is a seriously flawed defense mechanism and you shouldn't ever utilize it medically - it is dangerous. Please, guys, if you have noticed that you have decreased flow, that you're not emptying, that you seem to go a long time without needing to go, if your belly swells for no good reason and it's firm instead of flabby, if your color changes in the bowl, if you have a split-stream: run, do not walk to the doctor and tell him or her that you're concerned. Have them do blood and urine tests and the digital thing (which isn't conclusive about anything, BTW - but it's one more piece of evidence), do a PSA and Creatinine (kidney function) among others, and don't wait if there's something which might be untoward. Follow it through.

I will say this much: benign conditions can often kill you faster than those which are malignant. Don't worry about the results, do the tests. Please. We can't afford to lose any more liberals.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 08:14 PM
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1. Excellent advice.
Proactive is always better than reactive.

Recommended.

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Hoosier Daddy Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 12:58 PM
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27. Absolutely
Full checkups once a year, especially after 40.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 08:16 PM
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2. K & R. n/t
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 08:20 PM
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3. As a guy that had a Grandfather that had colon cancer and an Uncle
who had prostate cancer I always kid people that I would rather have a guy shove a camera up my backside every other year then have to do number two in a bag or have to have surgery were men don't like being hit. Trust me, I cant agree with you enough or advocate for it either.

Stay strong, get well.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 08:38 PM
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4. I'm not a male, but will speak for one, my husband who almost ended up on Kidney Dialysis because he
ignored a Prostate problem he KNEW he had. One day I had finally had it with his refusal to go to the doctor and told him we either go to the emergency room in my car or I'm calling an ambulance. We went to the emergency room in my car. The on-call ER doctor told him had he waited one more day, he would have died. He had uremic poisoning! His kidneys had completely shut down. They drained his bladder that night, did prostate surgery the next day, did kidney treatments to see if his kidneys would start functioning on their own and they DID...barely. He, to this day, has only 50% Kidney function, but he's doing FINE with that.

When the doctor told him had he waited one more day he would have died, you should have seen his face. White as a sheet. NOW, he is the most compliant patient any doctor could ask for. He goes for his blood tests every 4 months. He's diligent in keeping all his appointments with the Urologist and Kidney doctor because he finally realized how freakin' STUPID he had been.

I'm glad you're doing well, PC and that they found your problem BEFORE the damage was done. Stay well!
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 04:05 PM
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42. OMG! !!!!!
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 08:48 PM
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5. Having UC and GERD, doctors regularly come at me from both ends
Colonoscopy every 5 years.

EGD every 3 years.

In 2012, a perfect storm hits, and I get BOTH!

About a year or two ago, I told my doc that I still had a shred of dignity, so what could he do about that? Off came my pants, on went the glove.
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eggplant Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 11:17 PM
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7. I call it endoscopy and other-endoscopy
:D

I think my kidney function testing is covered by my twice yearly diabetes/cardiac labwork. But I'll be sure to ask the next time around.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:21 PM
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69. Same here. Next round of both
in October for me.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 09:01 PM
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6. "My" doctor and I'm projectng ALL doctors, HATE us/OBAMA
Edited on Fri Sep-16-11 09:02 PM by UTUSN
and they don't want to do anything "extra". I'm not demanding or abusive of the system, but when the dude just says, "Oh, that possibly carcinogen is just from the sun" (instead of sending me to a specialist....
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Papagoose Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 06:25 AM
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9. Not sure if I could keep seeing a Dr. with that kind of atitude
I've been incredibly lucky to find a very good Dr. who has never once doubted me, my ideas and my concerns. I don't know and don't want to know his politics.

Does your health care plan allow you to see a specialist without a referral?
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 06:13 PM
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59. My Doc hates Obama too. n/t
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Papagoose Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 06:22 AM
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8. I watched my Dad die slowly from Prostate Cancer
It was often many years between Dr. visits for him, and then only when he was injured. He never went for regular checkups or even when he was sick.

I've dealt with some very serious health issues of my own, so Dr. visits are a regular part of my life, but this post is so important. Men tend to ignore their health issues for one reason or another and they really, really shouldn't.
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:44 AM
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18. Good advice, hell, great advice. But...
My concern is based on my experiences working for an insurance company and now as a clinic manager that doesn't bill insurance sonthat we can afford to lower our cost for our patients. And that concern is that if a person can't afford to get treatment, then what is the point of getting the tests? For those with insurance, they have a chance of affording tue treatments, but those without?

In my case I don't have insurance so I ignore symptoms that I am pretty sure are serious, life altering, or life ending. I "know" better but why find out and worry about what I can do nothing about. I never used to be this way. I used to have insurance until I was hit by a car, denied coverage, and lost my job as a result of my spinal injury and paralysis. I used to go to the doctor and I used to get tests. I used to not worry all the time.

My boss, the medical director suspects something and asks me about it sometimes, and I used to talk to her about it and get advice. But I can't even afford the tests. And it upsets her and concerns her so I've taken to lying to her and everyone else In my life about my deteriorating health. I make sure no one sees me in pain. I put on a facade of health and I know there must be lots of others who are doing the same.

And so I ignore what I shouldn't and hope for a quick death when it comes. I hope the pain won't get too bad, but I have a plan to take care of that too:my own personal final solution. I know I am not alone..

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 12:25 PM
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22. *hugs* It shouldn't be this way in the "greatest country on earth."


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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 12:52 PM
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24. Thanks. And hugs right back.
I almost never talk about my health, but this issue bothers me. It is good advice to say "get the tests," but without insurance, it is cash on the barrelhead. There is a reason I haven't gotten the tests - I don't have the money to order them, so I can't get them.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 12:45 PM
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23. Get the tests! Don't die! A shit load of bills are better than death
:hug: :cry: Take care of yourself! We need you! :grr:
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 01:00 PM
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28. Good advice that I'll be ignoring.
Edited on Sat Sep-17-11 01:02 PM by MedicalAdmin
You are assuming that I don't want the tests, that I'm choosing not to take the tests. I don't have insurance and I can't afford to pay cash for them so I cannot get them. No insurance = cash on the barrelhead. I lack the funds. Period.

And so it doesn't seem worthwhile to even beg, borrow or steal the funds to impoverish and indebt my family because even if I find out what is strongly suspect, I can't begin to afford the treatment anyway. In this case, ignorance is bliss. Most days I can forget about how I feel and just concentrate on my family and community.

It just doesn't make sense to worry about that which I cannot change. Serenity is acceptance.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 01:15 PM
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30. Beg, borrow or steal the money for the tests...then get the treatment and let the bills pile up.
Your family won't appreciate what you did...they'll be angry and feel guilty and you will no longer be here to help and protect them. Think of your family! By the way... Can you PM me about your final solution? I'm interested in that information if it should ever be needed. I'm a firm believer in death with dignity. I was my Mother's caregiver who died of Alzheimer's. I would never want to saddle that job on any of my kids. Nor would I ever want to go through the indignities it curtails.
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 02:35 PM
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34. I'm not trying to be rude, but you are not getting it.
Unless one is in an emergency situation ( and honestly not even then) and if you lack insurance you must prepay for those tests and treatments. I don't have the money. There is no way I can get those tests. It is impossible. It's not a choice.

Do you get it now? It's not that I don't want to or are being stubborn or anything like that. I have no choice.

As for the final solution watch the movie the international, do a little reasearch online about what you find and then find an industrial supply house that you can order them from. Quick and not too expensive.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 03:52 PM
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40. I am sure if you called you local children and family organization and explained
the situation there would be some help for you. There are actually a lot of different agencies around that help but people don't know about them. Please don't just give up.
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 07:35 AM
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71. Not to put too fine a point on it but I do know about all of them.
Edited on Sun Sep-18-11 07:55 AM by MedicalAdmin
Because I helped open the clinic I work at and own a small equity position in it I gross too much to qualify for aid and the tests / treatments are in the 6 figures. But I net just enough to lay my bills which are modest. This is WAY above charity programs ability to help. I am too young for Medicare by almost 20 years, I make too much on paper to qualify for public aid, I'm too expensive for charities ( not to mention that I'm not exactly the warm fuzzy person that they prefer to help), and I've checked every resource in the community that is available. To make matters worse I don't have the time to hold the 12,000 spaghetti dinners to fund raise the money necessary. And make no mistake, because I have no insurance I would have to pay in advance.

Guns are cheaper, quicker, and won't leave my family homeless afterwards. And for those who don't like guns there are chemical solutions that are quick, relatively painless and look like a massive heart attack so if you have a life insurance policy ...

I haven't given up but my symptoms, which I now hide to spare every one else the worry, point directly to a condition that is fatal and as a bonus I get almost constant migraines. Combine this with the spinal injury and paralysis from a Car accident that was never paid for by the insurance company leaving me uninsurable. The spinal problems are eminently fixable if I could come up with a spare $120,000 for that "little" problem. FYI - the car accident was caused by an unlicensed driver in a company car who ran a stop sign and t-boned me in an intersection. 6 years later and the insurance company is still stalling.

What really pisses me off is that I know from talking to colleagues in Canada is that all of this is just covered up there. No questions asked, no credit checks, amd no waiting. Sure it's paid for by taxes, but much more cheaply that here, with better outcomes, because it doesn't make sense to canadiens to not invest in their citizens health.

Final note. I'm through begging and I haven't given up. But my options are severely limited. This is not the greatest nation in the world. Not even fucking close. In terms of health outcomes wenare solidly in 37th place and heading down. But we are number 1 in cost and lack of access.

Pardon my anger because it isn't directed at you at all, but fuck begging. And fuck insurance companies and all their enablers, appologists, and fucking ceo's.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 11:33 AM
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75. I hear that. Screw begging and spaghetti dinners. That's not only inffective it's
just all kinds of wrong. People have no value in this country. None at all. :hug:
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 05:28 PM
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76. Hug.
:hug:
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 02:58 AM
Response to Reply #71
78. If you are anywhere near New York, go to work at the UN.
If you're competent, you can get a job there. A temporary one, that is. Then you have to find a post, which can take a while. But as soon as you have a post, you get insurance. Period.

The UN does have a medical service, so maybe your skills would be something they might be looking for.

I should clarify about the job, though. It's a two-tier system, and it's easy to get a job at the general service level, but very difficult to get one at the professional level. Those jobs go to nationals of countries who are under represented at the UN, and the US isn't really under represented, at least not very often. But at the general service level, which unfortunately pays much less, jobs are easier to come by. There is an exam.

They do have lots of applicants these days, but if you test well, you have a good shot at getting something.

Good luck.

(I myself am on disability from the UN due to a chronic illness.)

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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 05:11 PM
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81. Thanks for the advice. Interesting stuff and I once wanted to work there.
What did you do at the UN?

As for now, the commute would kill me. I live in MN. But a guys gotta dream, no?
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 03:08 AM
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80. .
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 01:26 PM
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31. I can't presume to speak for MedicalAdmin, but... I have considered that without health insurance it
is better for me to forgo most healthcare. I can't do anything about serious illnesses, and no the bills are not necessarily worth it. What if I leave so many bills that my family wind up homeless? As awful as it would be for them not to have a mom, it would be worse to not have a mom and a home.

My only hope is to stay healthy until the kids grow up. A hope that I am sure millions of other Americans (and people from other nations where healthcare is inaccessible) share.

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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 02:47 PM
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35. Exactly. You do speak for me on this issue.
People who have insurance just don't get it. They might only be temporary junior probationary members, but they are still members o the club. Now that more of us are becoming poor, then something might actually be done about it. Too bad we can't just do the right thing without most of the country suffering.

The rest if us have to make decision they, thankfully, don't have to. I'm glad that this conversation is happening. How else will people learn about this otherwise?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 04:17 PM
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44. It's so stressful. When I still qualified for medicaid, at least I knew I had that in my corner. But
for now I am on my own, and that is a scary thought.

But hey, Obamacare passed, so like 100 more people than before now have healthcare. And the chance for states to develop their own healthcare like Vermont is now there. If some of us have to die needlessly in the meantime, oh well. That's the price of progress, right?

:sarcasm:
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 08:11 AM
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73. When a country stops caring it's people, do it's people still owe it their loyalty?
I think the answer is no. And in truth I'm not sure how I feel about that. I'm willing to fight for something better but this is no longer a democratic nation, so it will take a fight. Sadly, it looks as if the confederacy won after all. I fearthat it will take an alliance of democratic nations to take down the slavering dog that america has become.
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:30 PM
Response to Reply #35
70. Even some of us with insurance, forego healthcare visits.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 06:33 AM
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10. Great advice
Hope you get well soon and I enjoy your posts. This reminds me to go see my doc soon.

As an off-topic aside, my monthly health insurance premium now exceeds my rent. Medicare for all !
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:30 AM
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11. Thank you, wise words

Hope you will soon be well. Missed your postings.



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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:37 AM
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12. thanks!
I appreciate the sentiments...
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Marnie Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 10:08 AM
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13. "We can't afford.."
Many of us can't afford health care.

Why waste thousands maybe hundreds of thousands of dollars finding out you have a health problem that you can't afford to treat.

That is not denial, it is the intellectual realization of the facts of where most Americans live. We will all die of something eventually. For many of us that death will come much earlier from a medical issue that others will survive, solely because of the unafordability of medical care.

Enjoy your long life dentists and doctors, the entire class of "wealthy". Enjoy watching your less affluent friends and family die off from problems that you have had successfully treated.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 12:22 PM
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20. Yes. I know how that is. :^( I guess my husband and I will die of whatever whenever. We have no
choice in the matter. :(
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 12:56 PM
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25. I'm sorry but I can't endorse that attitude.
Don't roll over; raise hell. Drive or beg a ride a long way to a free clinic. Contact a dental school. GO to the ER. Find a social worker and make them see you as a human being. Find a counseling free clinic; they're around. Take EXQUISITE care of yourself physically and emotionally. Eating less of fresh food is better for you than filling up on low quality. Eating an apples and cheese and water is better than eating a Big Mac and soda and costs no more. I have been up and I've been down and up is better but down isn't dead unless you let it be.

Hell yes, you're going to die. We're all going to die. But as the man said, "Rage, RAGE against the dying of the light."

Or don't.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 10:13 AM
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14. PCIntern, thank you so much for posting this.
:hug:

PB
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 10:39 AM
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15. K&R
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orbitalman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:03 AM
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16. K & R
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 11:11 AM
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17. Thanks for this warning - my husband went to a urologist for a minor
problem. Thank God the doctor was anal enough to do a complete exam - he found prostate cancer that there had been no sign of , not even with regular PSA.
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Aaria Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 12:18 PM
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19. Could you once upon a time write your name in the snow, and are now down to your initials.
Well all those swollen prostate commercials are for you. Get some Saw Palmetto 300mg caps and start sleeping through the night, instead of getting up around 2am to pee. I don't know how many times I've gone to the head to walk in and have a guy standing there waiting to go and in obvious distress, and I'm done and gone before he's even started. Well since we guys don't talk in the bathroom I can't pass this info onto him.
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 12:58 PM
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26. So print it up on a bunch of broadsides and stick them to the stall doors.
You can do something!
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 06:28 PM
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61. That's a great idea. nt
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 12:22 PM
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21. I hope you get better and soon. *hugs*
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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 01:06 PM
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29. Thank you SO much for this. We also need more, FAR more "This is what you CAN do" posts.
So many people on DU are down and bitter, and it's blinding them to their own power. It's heartbreaking to see. Everyone can do something to help themselves and others get better, to have more control over their lives, but when you're hurting and scared it takes a huge effort to drag up any impetus to be effective in ways that not only help you, but help and inspire those around you. I very much appreciate your post.

And to anyone who feels criticized, I say this with faith and hope. I haven't given up on you. Don't give up on you.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 01:36 PM
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32. All of that to say "Go give your money to a doctor"
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 01:51 PM
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33. Nice post! thanks!! n/t
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 02:51 PM
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37. Wow.
I could summarize your post in a simple, declarative sentence, too. It would probably contain at least one four letter expletive.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 04:43 PM
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46. I know, the doctors want and deserve to have that money.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 05:00 PM
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49. pretty friggin' thoughtless.
cold.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 02:48 PM
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36. Rec #100
Thanks so much for sharing this with us, PCIntern.

:kick:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 02:51 PM
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38. Thanks.
Get well soon. :hi:
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Boxerfan Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 02:59 PM
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39. I'm eaking by on workmans comp trying to get SSDI for chronic issues...
And I bleed from my ass-often..

Not that I haven't sought treatment-Just my so called insurance refuses to pay for the colonoscopy. And being in my financial situation $975.00m is a huge amount of money.

So I hope its just hemmorhoids & my ibs from one of my conditions.

But having your TP covered in blood & a goodly amount in the bowl...Well it scares the heck outta me but I can't do anything about it. I'm hoping to be accepted for SSDI & by all rights I should be. Just seeing the DR. to get current on prescriptions for the yearly renewal was almost $500.00 for 2 visits...

Gawd I hate the teabnaggers screaming about "Obamacare"...We need national single payer and not a mandate to buy insurance from robber barons...
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xynthee Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 08:22 PM
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67. Sorry to hear about your problems!
I really hope things get better! I wish I could help everyone who needs help, or that I could help a person here or a person there, but this fucked-up world and my lack of resources preclude it.

I always consult Earth Clinic when I have a problem. There are lots of rather promising anecdotes about natural cures. I have no idea how many of them are true, or how many people who don't have positive results with a particular treatment actually bother to write a review, but it can't hurt to try MOST of these things (use your best judgment; there are some kooky people giving very dangerous advice every now and then, so be careful!!).

Here's some advice about anal stuff:

http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/anal-fissures.html (not too many potential cures for this. B6, witch hazel and changing positions when pooping seem to be the favorites, but there aren't many testimonials)

http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/hemorrhoids.html (lots of testimonials about hemorrhoid treatments, the main one being apple cider vinegar)

http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/IBS.html (apple cider vinegar wins again, but there are others).

I wish I could offer something more than "try some apple cider vinegar," but I really can't!! Best of luck to you! It's a fucking shame that you and so many others have to rely on luck for your health! :hug: :pals:
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 03:56 PM
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41. This may sound dumb but why don't women have prostrates? Or do they?
And isn't a complete metabolic panel, (blood test) going to check if your kidneys are in good working order? I'm on some medication now that could potentially cause some harm and the doctor just wrote a script for a blood test - complete metabolic panel. Maybe that would be good enough for now for the people who can't afford the expensive tests?
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 04:13 PM
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43. ??? Women do not have prostates. Go look at an anatomy book, please.
This is as bad as the basement dwellers on FARK who think that women pee through their vaginas.

Breathtaking.

:wtf: :wtf: :banghead: :banghead:

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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 04:53 PM
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48. You could have explained it to her instead of berating her no?
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 07:54 PM
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63. Thank you. The problem is prostrate and male is always ending up in the same sentence.
And now I just look it up and it is something completely different than I expected AND I doubt it is common knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skene%27s_gland

In human anatomy (female), the Skene's glands (also known as the lesser vestibular glands, periurethral glands, skene glands, paraurethral glands,<1> female prostate) are glands located on the anterior wall of the vagina, around the lower end of the urethra. They drain into the urethra and near the urethral opening and may be near or a part of the G-spot. These glands are surrounded with tissue, which includes the part of the clitoris that reaches up inside the vagina and swells with blood during sexual arousal.

<snip>

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nolabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 05:40 PM
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50. People cannot learn when they are being humiliated. What could you possibly be trying to achieve?
This is one reason people let life threatening problems go on, for fear someone will shame them. You may have done some real harm today.
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LiberalLoner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 07:17 PM
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62. Actually we do have similar tissues that produce a similar fluid which is
expelled through the urethra upon orgasm.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 08:15 PM
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65. ??? and some posters do not have manners. go look at an etiquette book, please.
in fact, please, read it from cover to cover.
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auntAgonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 04:52 PM
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47. Maraya1969
the prostate gland is exclusive to the male of the species (all mammals).

It is the gland that secretes the fluid that sperm is carried in when they ejaculate. The prostate is very important. It is also very sensitive - especially during sex for the male. gentle stimulation of the prostate (either through the skin just under the penis between the anus and the penis) or internally rectally, it is often a very intense orgasm for men. The prostate is located at the very base of the penis (not externally - internally.) Prostate cancer is a common occurrence in older (40+) men - sometimes because they don't ejaculate as often as young men do.


Also - symptoms of enlarged prostate are frequency of the urge to urinate - and then not peeing very much - or "weakness" of the urine stream (sort of dribbling...)


In short..
Women don't get prostate cancer because they don't have a prostate
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 04:26 PM
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45. i have good insurance even though my
Edited on Sat Sep-17-11 04:27 PM by DesertFlower
deducible is over $900. some doctors want to send people for too many tests. i have osteoporosis. had the test years ago. doc asked if i wanted another one. last time i saw him as i was leaving he said "do you want to have a chest x-ray"? i said "no -- i just had one last year". i'm not a smoker and he didn't hear anything strange when he listened to my chest.

i think this is part of the problem with medicare running out of money. too many unnecessary tests.

that being said, i wish you all the best of health.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 05:42 PM
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51. Good advice, but I don't see the connection...
...between "the pill" in your 1st paragraph and your concluding remarks about male health.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 06:00 PM
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53. There isn't one.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 06:07 PM
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55. Thanks, thought I was the only one. The thread does have some good advice and discussion though.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 06:12 PM
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58. The connection is my friend
that each of us needs to take our own health very seriously, to explore the ramifications of decisions which we and our doctors make for us, and to know and understand the possible consequences of action and inaction.

The Pill was utilized as a birth control device for years by couples and then when they, or at least the woman, wanted to conceive, in many cases she could not do so easily. in addition, the formulations for some of these Pills may have led to pathologies.

Life is more complex than the simplistic jingoisms of pharmaceutical companies or prescribers.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 08:08 PM
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64. A much better example is Hormone Replacement Therapy, which has known pathologies, many deadly
Failing to conceive after Pill use can be explained by many things that are not attributable to the Pill, such as: maternal age; pre-existing conditions that were unknown when pregnancy was undesired; conditions that were known for which the Pill was selected as a BC method to control/treat; maternal health, including chronic conditions with subfertility; paternal age; paternal sperm count; etc.

With HRT, the evidence is a little more obvious in terms of cause and effect. The Pill isn't perfect, but it ain't cancer.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 08:04 AM
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72. it is a good example, just not that which happened to me...
if, in that year, he had discussed HRT, then I would have related it. He did not.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 05:59 PM
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52. My father had bladder cancer that metastasized to his spinal column (untreatable)
Started out as bloody urine. Hematuria (blood you can see) can be benign prostrate, bladder infection or cancer ... see a doctor.

Blood you can't see is usually kidney disease. Usually. Can also be lower/upper tract infection, stones, and myriad other stuff.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 06:05 PM
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54. Oh PCIntern...
I hope you're okay. Hugs to you from OH.
My husband is a royal pain in a ass about going to the doctor. He went partially blind in one eye and didn't tell me for 48 hours. I know he won't tell me about anything serious (he's only 37, he should be having annual physicals and we have insurance, for god's sake).
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 06:09 PM
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56. K & R
...good advice and good luck.
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Stargleamer Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 06:09 PM
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57. it'd be helpful if you were to tell what specific condition/disease. . .
you are alluding to.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 06:14 PM
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60. For whom and how so?
I think the point was made and interpreted generally by most.

I thank you in advance for your consideration.
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Stargleamer Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 09:07 PM
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68. Well, for those who you urge to go to the doctor. . .
without having any idea of what possible disease(s)/condition(s) they might possibly have, they'll have no way of knowing if the doctor's reaction/diagnosis to their symptoms would be appropriate.

You may have thought your point "may have been made and interpreted by most", but given how vague or ambiguous it was, I have my doubts as to whether people accurately knew just what you were referring to. also there are quite a few conditions that present such symptoms.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 08:27 AM
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74. I do believe that I have self-disclosed quite enough here...
I also believe that I made it eminently clear in my supplication to people that if certain bodily functions change, that they need to report that change to a doctor. i was not implying that they suffered from a certain pathologic entity nor that they should make a diagnosis themselves. Many conditions are perfectly normal: that decision is best made by a physician. Whatever I specifically have or don't have is irrelevant to this discussion.

Doesn't that make sense?
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-11 08:21 PM
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66. as a guess as to the general condition, i'll note that prostate surgery has improved greatly
my expired medical training ends at the emt level, but my understanding from family experience is that they know more now about how to remove a prostate while minimally disturbing the nerves and muscles and other structures relevant for sex and orgasm.

consequently, it is now much more likely to have a sex life post prostatectomy free from previously common side effects such as erectile dysfunction or anorgasmia.



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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-11 09:59 PM
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77. Thank you very much for this great info, PCIntern. REC and KICK.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 02:59 AM
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79. bla bla bla
why?
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-11 05:14 PM
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82. I drink enough scotch to kill any cancer
and if I notice problems; I will just up my dosage.
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