The Supreme Court stopped Rick Perry from committing another murder last night

[Cyrano]

Did I say murder? Sorry, "execution."

We are still the only "civilized" country in the world that has the death penalty. It has been banned in almost all of Europe, and in Japan and Canada.

Anyhow, I guess a bad night for Governor Perry is a good night for human decency. Then again, he may not have heard about it since he was off to a fund raiser someplace.

[Blue Owl]

1. Are the Tea Cretins booing yet?

We all know how depressed the party of life gets when other people don't die.

[Llewlladdwr]

2. A State authorized execution is not a murder. NT

[MrDiaz]

5. Are you talking about the

Man who murdered a child's mother in front of her and the man she was with? If so, I completly disagree with you, this man deserves what he should have got.

[mysuzuki2]

6. Oh?

[NNN0LHI]

9. If a state tortured you into signing a false confession for a crime you didn't commit and ...

... executed you would you consider that murder?

Don

[Llewlladdwr]

11. Is that what happened in this case? NT

[NNN0LHI]

14. Why did you avoid answering my question?

Lets get these questions done one at a time so we don't have any confusion during this chat.

Don

[Llewlladdwr]

17. Because it is meaningless.

We could play 'what if' games all day. The fact of the matter is that your hypothetical has no relation to this particular case. The accused was tried, found guilty and sentenced to death in accordance with US jurisprudence. Under US law such a killing is not murder.

[HERVEPA]

3. It is a state-sponsored and approved murder.

[Llewlladdwr]

7. Familiar with Lewis Carroll?

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”

That would appear to be your attitude as well.

[Cyrano]

8. I'm familiar with the quote, Llewlladdwr

And I also call capital punishment "state-sponsored and approved murder."

[Llewlladdwr]

10. You are free to do so...

but that doesn't make it true. Murder is very explicitly defined in the legal codes of the states and the Federal governments. An execution does not meet the definition of murder in those codes. Ergo, an execution is not a murder.

[Cyrano]

12. That's a lawyer's argument. It doesn't meet any standard of human morality or decency I know of.

[Llewlladdwr]

15. While I agree that most lawyers are devoid of morality...

the fact remains that murder has a very specifically defined meaning. It has to in order to determine when it is proper to impose severe legal sanctions on an individual. If you define any killing of another human being as murder then an individual who accidentally causes a death is just as much a murderer as John Wayne Gacy or Henry Lee Lucas.

[Cyrano]

16. Well, according to your "very specifically defined meaning" of murder, I guess it

applies more to black people than to white people. The statistics of how the death penalty is applied in this country would show what I've just said to be a true statement.

Anyhow, twist it as you will. I'm outta here.

[EFerrari]

13. What did Lewis Carroll say about appeals to authority?

[Llewlladdwr]

18. I have no idea.

I didn't really intend this as an appeal to authority, since I don't believe Lewis Carroll to be authoritative on legal questions like this. He did, however, have a talent for phrasing things much better than I can.

[joeybee12]

4. Good...you know he would not ahve intervened, the asshole...good

for the SCOTUS...rare that we can praise them.

[Cirque du So-What]

19. Executionis interruptus

Sorry about your inability to achieve gore-gasm, teabaggers. Not really.