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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 08:26 AM Original message |
Geithner ignored an order from Obama to dissolve Citigroup. WTF? |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
1. K & R. nt |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
2. summers is a scumbag who Obama should have never picked /nt |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 08:32 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. So is Summers. nt |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 08:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Why? |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #6 |
37. One of the biggest proponents of deregulation |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 03:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
53. Ah... douchebag. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
33. +1 |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
3. He's |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 08:41 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Either way the WH looks bad. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 08:43 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Either way |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 12:23 AM Response to Reply #9 |
72. The president confirmed it and so did Geithner. I doubt |
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sad sally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
54. Either they don't follow his directives, or maybe even an intentional effort to |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 04:22 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Yep. Good points. n/t |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 08:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. I'm a little foggy on the details.. Who was it that hired Geithner as an advisor to Obama? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 08:58 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Yes. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #16 |
28. So you agree that if the claims are indeed substantiated then whoever hired Geithner is responsible? |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
48. Oops! You broke the blue link chain! |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 02:56 AM Response to Reply #28 |
76. Pffft |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 10:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
67. Explain your support for Summers and Geithner. nm |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #16 |
113. Fire Geithner and Summers and all the rest of his conservative appointees. nm |
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DisgustipatedinCA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #16 |
122. Squirm and weasel. Repeat as necessary |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 03:52 AM Response to Reply #11 |
80. Obama picked this team of crooks and criminals -- the first warning signs re Obama -- !! |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 10:45 PM Response to Reply #3 |
65. Explain if you can, why Pres Obama chose Summers and Geithner in the first place? |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 02:57 AM Response to Reply #65 |
77. They dug the crap hole. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 11:35 PM Response to Reply #77 |
120. Notice that she didnt respond, they never do. Never engage in discussions re. issues. nm |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 05:15 AM Response to Reply #3 |
91. Deleted message |
tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 06:40 AM Response to Reply #3 |
101. "proof" you say!? |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
5. So, who's accountable? |
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Thor_MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 08:42 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Define people... |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 08:45 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. We the People. |
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Thor_MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 08:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
64. We don't count anymore. They replaced us with corporations. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 08:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. An entity formed by a corporate charter? n/t |
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Guy Whitey Corngood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 08:56 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. "Corporations are people my friend! Wait, why is everyone laughing? STOP IT!!" nt |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 09:04 AM Response to Reply #5 |
19. The country is run by the the Bilderberg Group and their CFR and all the other |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. + 1. n/t |
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banned from Kos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
13. Citigroup is worth a lot more whole than broken up |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 08:59 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. why should this concern Obama who is supposed to represent us not citi? n/t |
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banned from Kos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 09:05 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. The vast majority of people are not preocupied with breaking Citi up |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 09:06 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. The vast majority are very preoccupied with breaking them all up! |
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banned from Kos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 09:16 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. The top 10 big banks have over 70% of American's deposits |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #25 |
39. Most people don't "like them" |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 06:43 AM Response to Reply #39 |
102. I would, also, add that in some place some people don't get choices of |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 05:43 AM Response to Reply #25 |
95. Cynicism like that earns a place on my ignore list. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 03:55 AM Response to Reply #21 |
81. +1000% --- |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 05:37 AM Response to Reply #21 |
94. If Citi had been broken up, we would have held the House. |
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DrunkenBoat (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
43. Their salaries are the least of their compensation. |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
59. We the citizens rely on the banking system to keep the economy sound. |
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banned from Kos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 07:28 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Good post - the FDIC is out of funds thus Too Big To Fail is in place |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 11:22 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. The FDIC is out of funds? Whoa. I didn't know that. Can that be right? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 03:58 AM Response to Reply #71 |
82. FDIC wasn't intended to cover the entire system failing -- it was intended to |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #82 |
112. I don't know about crime or that the govt should be punished for trying to protect... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 08:18 PM Response to Reply #112 |
119. Of course, we need to protect savings -- and protect the public from theft -- |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #119 |
121. The FDIC coverage cap was increased to protect against bank failures. Not theft or |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. The account LOAD at individual banks was permitted to rise ..... |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 01:28 AM Response to Reply #13 |
73. You do not recall correctly. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 10:05 AM Response to Reply #13 |
114. It is way past time to split up the banks. If the government is profiting because Citi is big, |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
15. if that is true, why didnt Obama fire him? n/t |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. ... makes you wonder, doesn't it? |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. You cannot fire the person that you work for. |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. Lotsa truthiness there |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 04:01 AM Response to Reply #41 |
84. +1000% --- quite perceptive -- !!! |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 06:12 AM Response to Reply #41 |
100. +100000 Obama works for the banks. |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 06:45 AM Response to Reply #41 |
104. agreed. nt |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 07:35 AM Response to Reply #41 |
109. +1 |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
45. That's what I'm wondering. |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 03:49 AM Response to Reply #45 |
79. None of this makes any sense |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 06:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
60. It wasn't an order to close Citibank. That's not Obama's area. It was an order to consider it. |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 05:51 AM Response to Reply #15 |
97. Because he doesn't understand derivatives |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
22. Exactly...Obama was not ready to be president...not enough experience...and |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. it is not experience |
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creon (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 06:48 AM Response to Reply #23 |
105. Read the book |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 09:17 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Aaaand the other choices were pro-offshoring war corporatist "Dem" and Fascist/Opportunist. |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 03:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
52. "not enough experience" is a racist dog whistle.. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 04:02 AM Response to Reply #22 |
85. This isn't about "experience" ... it's about allegiance to corporate/elites vs public interest -- !! |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #22 |
116. Like the "MBA President" and his govt. funding "capitalist" VP who created this mess? |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
24. Geithner probably considered breaking up Citigroup |
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banned from Kos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 09:19 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. He was to be damned either way - breaking Citi up and fumbling the $45 billion TARP |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
29. Geithner was very good at stone-walling and trying to ignore orders |
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banned from Kos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 09:45 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Geithner was vindicated by the $12 billion taxpayer profit he made on Citi. |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 10:05 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. And Bill Black has quite a bit for you to ponder as well. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 04:04 AM Response to Reply #35 |
86. Certainly, neither Obama nor Denms are moving to end this corruption ... a replay is more likely-!! |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 05:49 AM Response to Reply #86 |
96. Agreed: Geithner must go and we must push for a full investigation |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 01:30 AM Response to Reply #31 |
74. Taxpayers lost money on the Citi deal.. |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 05:19 AM Response to Reply #31 |
92. Have you ever heard of the term, "link"? |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. Geithner was part of the deal. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 04:05 AM Response to Reply #44 |
87. Obama administration has no credibility -- and Dem Party may go down with him..!!! |
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Modern_Matthew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
30. This President has been chained from the beginning... |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 09:47 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Yes, it's awful that he was forced to accept Geithner as an advisor.. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 10:15 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Since like Scrooge's old partner Marley, he fashioned the chains link by link |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. Mm-hmm. And who appointed those people anyway? |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
47. Well, yeah. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 03:04 AM Response to Reply #30 |
78. Hey hey, ho ho, Barack Obama has got to go! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 04:07 AM Response to Reply #30 |
88. I'm sure Koch Bros/DLC Rahm Emmanuel hired himself -- ??? Whaaat ???? |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 06:49 AM Response to Reply #30 |
106. so profoundly naive. nt |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
34. People generally do what their bosses tell them to do. nt |
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DrunkenBoat (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
42. Interesting. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
46. Insubordination = grounds for dismissal. |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. would be interesting to see what lil' Timmay G. says when directly confronted with this. |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 05:54 AM Response to Reply #51 |
98. We're seeing his last days on the job. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
50. The word "consider" greatly weakens the word "order." |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. THANK YOU. You're the only other person who caught that. It wasn't an "order" to close |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
55. Obama is more forgiving than that 1st Sgt who told me to get a haircut. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
57. Then Obama should have FIRED them, just as Truman fired MacArthur when he |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
58. and we could have had Paul Krugman instead. |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
61. Oh, look, there goes a chessboard out the window. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
66. Who hired all these bungholes, anyway? n/t |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
68. Geithner serves at the pleasure of the president. |
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markpkessinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
69. And not only did the President let him get away with insubordination . . . |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
70. Do you ever get the feeling... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 04:09 AM Response to Reply #70 |
89. Do you mean Obama sold himself ... ? To Wall Street, Oil industry ... ??? |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 05:56 AM Response to Reply #89 |
99. Obama is a capitalist. Nothing more, nothing less. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 07:04 AM Response to Reply #99 |
108. The question isn't whether or not he's a capitalist, it's what kind of |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 08:41 AM Response to Reply #108 |
111. If we look at capitalism, it tends toward monopolism every time. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #111 |
115. And that was the point I was trying to make. In the wealth of nations, Adam Smith warns |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 07:49 PM Response to Reply #108 |
118. The world has long recognized capitalism as an EVIL .... and unregulated capitalism... |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
75. Dramatic headline fail. |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 03:59 AM Response to Reply #75 |
83. +1 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 04:10 AM Response to Reply #75 |
90. Reality is Geitner is running the show -- |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 05:31 AM Response to Original message |
93. What are the chances we can remove Geithner? |
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creon (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
103. Read the book |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
107. Is this all the haters have at this point? Whining about one of Obama's advisors??? |
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tcaudilllg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 06:34 PM Response to Reply #107 |
117. No we think he means well. |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
110. Anyone get fired? nt |
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