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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 06:15 AM Original message |
Can someone please tell me what Obama's values are? |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 06:17 AM Response to Original message |
1. I don't rightly give a shit at this point. We should turn most of our attention to the Republicans. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 06:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. And those Republicans clearly state their values |
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HappyMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 06:23 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I wasn't aware that republiCONS had values. nt |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 06:31 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. They've controlled the airwaves shouting about them for the last 40 years |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 07:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
60. You aren't going to elect Obama if you don't give a shit what he stands for. |
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Pigheaded (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. Huh?? |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. What is hard to comprehend? It seems simply obvious to me. nt |
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HappyMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 06:20 AM Response to Original message |
2. ... |
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Owlet (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 06:29 AM Response to Original message |
5. Interesting question |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 06:34 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Very briefly, public goods are GOOD |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 07:16 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Do you consider the drug war to be a "public good"? n/t |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Nope. That's why I defend PUBLIC GOODS, and not government per se |
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alc (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 06:30 AM Response to Original message |
6. reelection |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 06:34 AM Response to Original message |
8. With enough money, you can make his values whatever you want it to be. nt |
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A wise Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 06:38 AM Response to Original message |
10. From 2000 to the present... |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 06:52 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. This attitude is rather quite the problem. |
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Erose999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 07:13 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. These times are worse than Bush's presidency, are they not? |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
33. LOL, uh yeah... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. Sorry, but "we suck less" is not a value n/t |
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MisterP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
40. maybe NEXT time you should probably break |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 06:44 AM Response to Original message |
11. Anthony Weiner said he's not a values kind of guy. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 07:07 AM Response to Reply #11 |
49. It's also probably why he's not in office anymore. n/t |
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Mugweed (939 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 06:47 AM Response to Original message |
12. Machine wash, warm water |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 06:58 AM Response to Original message |
14. Pleasing rich, corporate, and GOP assholes. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
17. He values consensus and compromise |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Excellent. The first really appropriate answer |
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Mr Deltoid (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Right, the process is more important than the end result |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
38. Consensus and compromise require more than just him... |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
18. Above all else, at the end of the day he needs to appear as "the only adult in the room." |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. "They have this destructive vision of where America should be going." |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 09:54 AM Response to Reply #18 |
53. bravo!! you have also spoken my own heart on this |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
19. irrelevant. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Policy wise, yes. Communicating to the public? Unfortunately we need clear |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. As both parties are capitalist... |
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hifiguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. +1 |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Let me know when you find an anti-capitalist party with a voter contact list n/t |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 06:58 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Organization first. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 01:43 AM Response to Reply #48 |
66. You learn to do elections by doing elections |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
21. Drones and Drug Wars.. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. Those aren't values. They are policies n/t |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 07:09 AM Response to Reply #31 |
50. You develop your policies based on your values. Well, at least I do. n/t |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
24. Same as they were in '08. Getting elected. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
25. He clearly hates us. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Could you try to answer the question? n/t |
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JNinWB (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Why? I'm not a mind-reader. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I don't, and neither do most people. With politicians, you shouldn't have to read their minds n/t |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #29 |
55. I did ... clearly he hates America. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
30. This thread is a waste of time. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Silly me. Of course we don't need a strong values message to counter |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #30 |
54. yes |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #30 |
61. I agree. The MODs should immediately delete bullshit OPs like this one. |
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Claudia Jones (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
35. politics is not driven by "values" |
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Cosmocat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. THANK YOU ... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 09:00 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. You mean that fighting for the have nots isn't a value? |
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Claudia Jones (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #43 |
56. I see what you are saying |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 01:46 AM Response to Reply #56 |
67. "I share your values" is bullshit unless you state what your values are |
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Claudia Jones (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. yep |
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quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
44. An empty suit apparently |
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 09:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Not your pony anyhow. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
64. We agree... |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
46. Cash for Clunkers |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-16-11 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
47. He's stated his values many times, and demonstrated them consistently |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 07:11 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. In other words, compromise then capitulate when the other side doesn't compromise. n/t |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 09:35 PM Response to Reply #47 |
65. The easiest way is to watch. He is a neo-liberal. |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
52. Getting elected |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
57. Go here for a nice summary: |
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Claudia Jones (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. "what we believe" |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 07:34 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Superb post . |
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LetTimmySmoke (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
62. Getting through news cycles? |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-17-11 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
63. He values doing stuff to make you mad. |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
69. Ya got me. |
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scentopine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
70. Genital inspections in airports, amnesty for Wall Street crooks and torturers -nt |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-18-11 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
71. Translation: I don't think Obama has good values! |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-19-11 03:37 AM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Only two values have been listed in the whole thread |
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