Ralph Nader: Hero of progressive values, or complete douchebag?

[Tiggeroshii]

[FarLeftFist]

1. Mixed bag.

[teddy51]

2. Nader is almost akin to a Ron Paul, on the opposite side of the isle. n/t

[JVS]

23. Ron Paul wishes he had Nader's resume.

[RZM]

3. I read a while back that personally, he's a an ass

Of course, that's par for the course for agitators like himself. Solzhenitsyn was an ass too, but he was also a courageous dissident and wrote one of the best pieces of literature of the last 50 years. Another Soviet dissident, Vladimir Bukovsky, is a total prick as well.

Often things work out that way. It's not a surprise that people who are willing to say 'go fuck yourself' to the powers that be also say that to just about everybody else.

*On edit*

BTW, I do feel compelled to note that the two Russians I mentioned spent time in the GULag (Solzhenitsyn) and prisons/mental institutions (Bukovsky) for saying things that every American takes for granted. Nader has never had to sacrifice like that. Not that he should, but it should be noted.

[tblue]

8. Your second paragraph

applies to a lot of Democrats too. I could point out several ops here just from today.

[ChandlerJr]

4. I've never forgiven him for destroying one of the most innovative

cars that GM ever developed



Allowing the foreign car companies to eventually dominate the small, fun to drive market and ultimately destroy the US auto industry.

[Tiggeroshii]

5. How did he destroy it?

[jtuck004]

6. He didn't destroy as many as fire did when they burned up. /nt

[ChandlerJr]

7. Never heard of that

you might be thinking of the Ford Pinto.

[jtuck004]

9. The pinto certainly did more, but I remember at least one corvair

going up in smoke when I was younger. I do remember a front-mounted gas tank, and the steering was perhaps way more responsive than most people were prepared to drive, all of which have contributed to problems.

But that was a long time ago and far, far away, so I may not remember what I think I do ;)

[Mopar151]

18. Accesory gasoline -burning heater

Likely a Stewart-Warner "Southwind". One of Corvair's REAL problems was exhaust and oil fume contamination in the engine-driven heating system. And old school VW owners can sympathize - air-cooled engines just don't make much heat unless the engine is working hard.

[bluestate10]

16. Neither did I. I had a much older brother that owned one.

He loved the car. It was an oil trap, but it never caught fire.

[Stargleamer]

10. He Drops out of the Florida Race in time. . .

and we could have been spared from all the damage that Bush jr. did. We could have had a president who appreciates how serious climate change is for once in our lives.

[bluestate10]

17. And we would not be dealing with a 14 trillion dollar deficit and insane teabaggers. nt

[Ineeda]

11. "Every party needs a pooper, that's why we invited you..."

All you folks begging for a primary challenge have had your wish granted. History repeats? Al Gore and the country thanks you for a decade of hell. And the planet thanks you for a bleak future.:mad: :nuke: :mad: :nuke: :mad:

[mdmc]

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[mdmc]

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[Le Taz Hot]

14. Seems that Pavlov is ringing the bell again.

:eyes:

[bluestate10]

15. Douche. Nader has lost any socially redeeming value. nt

[mdmc]

19. ..

[HappyMe]

20. Douche. nt

[bigwillq]

21. He's ok.

Some good, some bad. Pretty much like any other politician.

[lame54]

22. you left out convenient scapegoat

[JVS]

24. Once he was our douchebag, and a glorious douchebag he was. But then we parted and now...

he's a classic reminder of the saying that there are some people that you'd rather have on the inside pissing out than on the outside pissing in.

[dionysus]

25. past hero, current douche.