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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:01 PM
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"But we live in a democracy, and at the end of the day, I can’t do this all by myself."
"But we live in a democracy, and at the end of the day, I can't do this all by myself under our democratic system. If we're going to do big things—whether it's passing this jobs bill, or the DREAM Act, or comprehensive immigration reform—we're going to have to get Congress to act." —President Obama, speaking at the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute Gala.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:07 PM
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1. yes!
Edited on Thu Sep-15-11 08:07 PM by polmaven
And we're going to have to get them to act properly}/i]!!!
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:11 PM
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2. And that starts with punching the Repubs' tickets out of town. :) nt
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:44 PM
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6. Yep!
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:11 PM
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3. How is it a democracy?
Patriot Act ended many of our civil rights; the voting machine is hackable and election tallies are altered.

And for the most part, only people in cahoots with the Biggest Corporations are in a position to run for office. Any individual's effects at the polling place is stripped of any meaning by the fact that it costs a person one billion dollars to run for the Presidency, and in some states, close to one hundred million to run for the Senate.

And that makes this system of government far closer to the definition of fascism than to democracy.



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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:25 PM
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4. Now that's the truth
democracy my ass,
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:33 PM
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5. It is what it is and it will become LESS of a democracy under Republican leadership. nt
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 09:01 PM
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7. +1
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 09:25 PM
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10. Ding! Ding! Ding!
We have a winner! You hit the dented nail of American democracy on the head.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 09:34 PM
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11. bingo!
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 09:44 PM
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12. Heh, we're still a democracy despite fascist attempts to take it away from us.
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 09:47 PM
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13. I disagree.
Edited on Thu Sep-15-11 09:48 PM by white_wolf
Even at the height of our democracy we were still under the dictatorship of capital. Until we abolish capitalism, we will never have democracy.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 10:14 PM
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14. The problem with our system is that it has lacked fair representation for just under a century.
And has become increasingly corporatist.

See this post here: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/joshcryer/116

The only reason capital is an issue is because it is disproportionately powerful politically speaking.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 01:03 PM
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15. Maybe a person who lives in Vermont can say that with a straight face.
In California, not at all.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 01:12 PM
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17. Lazy, giving up language
Trying to justify sitting back, doing nothing and playing the victim. This kind of thinking allows us to be pointed at that we have our crazies, too. The Tea Party is hardly less insane on their end.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 09:14 PM
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8. He should have said "we're going to have to elect more democrats".
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 09:15 PM
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9. I think you left something out of your OP..
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 01:06 PM
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16. We live in an oligarchy and have very little say in how it's run.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-16-11 01:14 PM
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18. K & R
:thumbsup:
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