Michael Moore, Elisabeth Hasselbeck clash on ‘The View’

[babsbunny]

http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/09/michael-moore-elisabeth-hasselbeck-clash-on-the-view/

Posted on 09.15.11
By Stephen C. Webster
Categories: Culture, Featured

Elisabeth Hasselbeck, the lone conservative co-host of ABC’s women’s talk show “The View,” took the untypical position of defending President Barack Obama, specifically saying that he made the right decision to order the operation that killed Osama bin Laden.

Moore, who’s previously argued that the U.S. “lost something of our soul” in that raid, wasn’t buying it.

“The way we show the world that we’re difference is that we give even the most heinous person their day in court,” Moore said. “If we lose sight of that basic American principle — we put the Nazis on

[xchrom]

1. Americans aren't subtle or sophisticated enough for MM. Nt

[okieinpain]

2. i have to disagree with mike on that one. killing osama was the

right call.

[Raine]

3. Yup, me too. nt

[NYC Liberal]

4. "We put the Nazis on" - yes, and we have put terrorists on trial too.

Osama bin Laden was not going to be taken alive. He was going to make himself into a martyr. Most people knew that for a long time before he was finally killed.

[DirkGently]

5. The good guys don't assassinate people. No surprise Hasselbeck doesn't get that.

[deaniac21]

6. from wikipedia

In the aftermath of the Malmedy massacre a written order from the HQ of the 328th US Army Infantry Regiment, dated December 21, 1944, stated: No SS troops or paratroopers will be taken prisoner but will be shot on sight.<38> Major-General Raymond Hufft (U.S. Army) gave instructions to his troops not to take prisoners when they crossed the Rhine in 1945. "After the war, when he reflected on the war crimes he authorized, he admitted, 'if the Germans had won, I would have been on trial at Nuremberg instead of them.'"<39> Stephen Ambrose related: "I've interviewed well over 1000 combat veterans. Only one of them said he shot a prisoner... Perhaps as many as one-third of the veterans...however, related incidents in which they saw other GIs shooting unarmed German prisoners who had their hands up."<40>

Near the French village of Audouville-la-Hubert, 30 German Wehrmacht prisoners were massacred by U.S. paratroopers.<41>

Frank Sheeran, who served in the 45th Infantry Division, later recalled,


“When an officer would tell you to take a couple of German prisoners back behind the line and for you to ‘hurry back,’ you did what you had to do.”<42>

Historian Peter Lieb has found that many US and Canadian units were ordered to not take prisoners during the D-Day landings in Normandy. If this view is correct it may explain the fate of 64 German prisoners (out of 130 captured) who did not make it to the POW collecting point on Omaha Beach on D-Day.<43>

According to an article in Der Spiegel by Klaus Wiegrefe, many personal memoirs of Allied soldiers have been willfully ignored by historians until now because they were at odds with the "Greatest Generation" mythology surrounding World War II, but this has recently started to change with books such as The Day of Battle by Rick Atkinson where he describes Allied war crimes in Italy, and D-Day: The Battle for Normandy, by Anthony Beevor.<43> Beevor's latest work is currently discussed by scholars, and should some of them be proven right that means that Allied war crimes in Normandy were much more extensive "than was previously realized".<41>