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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 12:20 AM
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Some Democrats balking at Obama's jobs bill
President Obama anticipated Republican resistance to his jobs program, but he is now meeting increasing pushback from his own party. Many Congressional Democrats, smarting from the fallout over the 2009 stimulus bill, say there is little chance they will be able to support the bill as a single entity, citing an array of elements they cannot abide.

I think the American people are very skeptical of big pieces of legislation, Senator Bob Casey, a Democrat from Pennsylvania, said in an interview Wednesday, joining a growing chorus of Democrats who prefer an la carte version of the bill despite White House resistance to that approach. For that reason alone I think we should break it up.

Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the majority leader, has said he will put the bill on the legislative calendar but has declined to say when. He almost certainly will push the bill which Mr. Obama urged Congress to pass right now! until after his chambers recess at the end of the month; Mr. Reid has set votes on disaster aid, extensions for the Federal Aviation Administration and a short-term spending plan ahead of the jobs bill.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44528419/ns/politics-the_ne...
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 12:36 AM
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1. The GOP has it so easy.
It's hard for Democrats to get on the same page because of different legislative priorities and pet causes and insecurities about not being liked. With the GOP, each member has only one priority: make Obama a one-termer.

:eyes:

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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 12:43 AM
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2. Much of this is Democratic jousting. Nothing new. While Obama takes to the stump. the end result is
in Congressional hands, and votes. It's an interesting process - posing a big picture, if flawed, approach, and a more specific, yet piecemeal, approach. Local parochialism remains a feature in Congress, as always, and the larger picture remains a feature of the Presidency.

What matters, functionally, is what ends up on his desk for a signature, imo.

:hi:
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 06:08 AM
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3. This is why we can't have nice things.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:33 PM
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21. Same fake mfkers..
who are really working for and with the republiCONS to block any and everything that President Obama tries to do and has been trying to do since he took office.

Any old damn excuse he should have never taken what it took to get votes for the healthcare bill and any other bill. Some here love to throw out this shit about why didn't Obama get anything done when he had the majority before 2010 election he didn't then and doesn't now. These lying ass sacks of shits are lining up right now with the republiCONS (which they really are) to block this jobs bill.

I don't want to hear any shit about they need to vote a certain way because they are in a red district. Really, how in the fuck does everyone know that with all of the things that have been happening in this country in the past few years are those areas really red,or are some shenanigans going on.
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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 06:39 AM
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4. How is this bill different than the 2009 Bill?
The 2009 Bill was not very effective. Why would anyone believe that the same approach would be any better now?
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samrock Donating Member (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 04:39 PM
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14. B.S. the 2009 bill WAS very effective...


We went from losing ~ 700k jobs a month to creating anywhere from 20k to 200k.. a month.. what we needed and still do is a 2nd bill to boost us over the hump and creating 300k-500k jobs a month!!
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 04:44 PM
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15. Oh?
That's what you would say if you are listening to the media propaganda.





Sources: GDP: BEA, Payrolls and unemployment, BLS
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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 05:28 PM
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17. I'm not listening to any propaganda
I'm just looking at the unemployment rate. It's stuck at more than 9 percent - worse than in 2009.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 07:05 AM
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5. Most of the whining is coming from blue dawg Democrats.
The assholes of the Dem party.
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Claudia Jones Donating Member (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:22 PM
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19. huh?
I thought it was from the far left?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 07:09 AM
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6. Welcome To "Lets Make A Deal"
Any vote on a jobs bill...part or whole (ain't gonna happen) will be close. So if Obama wants the vote he's gonna have to ante up to those who think their vote will be critical. The House is a real basketcase right now...be assured that 60 or so teabaggers won't vote for anything this administration even smiles at....so to get a bill done, Boner will need a combination of Democrats and rushpublicans and this is where the horsetrading begins.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 07:14 AM
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7. Democrats doing the Republicans' dirty work.
As usual.

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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 07:52 AM
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8. Why wouldn't they?
We have a party leadership that encourages these temper tantrums, never even thinks about uttering even a word of dissatisfaction when members pull antics like this, let alone anything resembling any form of punishment. Instead they get wooed and catered to by the leadership.

Why the hell wouldn't they act that way? Until we get leaders who are more interested in getting mad at those who betray Democratic principles instead of getting mad at those who would support and fight for them, it will continue to be the way.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:44 AM
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9. Apparently there are still some real Democrats left. nt
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 09:02 AM
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10. I really how can Obama get anything done when he has a united GOP and then
members of his own party who always oppose him. Yet everybody here thinks he should get things done just like that.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 09:04 AM
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11. Looks like this "jobs bill" is D.O.A. nt
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Mr Gerrity Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 09:13 AM
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12. Ugggh
Why can't we once have a unified strategy. "PASS THE BILL - RIGHT NOW!" People are suffering. :grr:
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 05:02 PM
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16. Probably because the plan is largely a grab bag of bullshit and counter-productive nonsense
that is as likely to make less jobs as more and is even more likely to lower wages.

What suffering will it alleviate?

Pharma patent experts from coming up with new delivery systems and inert ingredients to prolong the big profits? Companies that want free/subsidized labor rather than paying someone a living wage to pad their profits? Seniors with too much money at the end of the month? Eliminating the stress on folks that are worried we don't have enough free trade agreements?
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Mr Gerrity Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:21 PM
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18. The American Jobs Act: Greater than Expected Impact
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 04:34 PM
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13. K & R !!!
:kick:
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:26 PM
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20. they never have problems funding war
but when it comes to people's jobs they are not interested
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-11 08:57 PM
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22. so the Turd Way Democrats are against it.
Thanks for nothing, DINO traitors.
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