This isn't the first time Doonesbury has been censored

[n2doc]

And I hope to the FSM it isn't the last. Trudeau rocks!

Bush's Pet Name for Rove Leads to Doonesbury Censorship (2004)
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2005/07/27/294/98526



Editors Censor "Doonesbury" Series (1998)
http://www.albionmonitor.com/9802a/doonesbury.html


Doonesbury Compromise Strips Away Censorship (1985)
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1985-05-30/features/8502030761_1_garry-trudeau-lee-salem-doonesbury


And lots of other examples I haven't the time to put in there. Afflict the comfortable.

[hobbit709]

1. Since I don't buy newspapers, I have no problem reading Doonesbury online.

[Ian David]

2. “Censored” Doonesbury: “New book explodes myth of Sarah Palin not reading.”

“Censored” Doonesbury: “New book explodes myth of Sarah Palin not reading.”

As always, Garry Trudeau for the win:

http://cdn.svcs.c2.uclick.com/c2/43de0dc0bbbd012e2f8f00163e41dd5b?width=900

And this little nugget, via my buddy Greg Ostravich:

From my FB friend Bill Menezes; looks like the Chicago Tribune (part of the “Liburul media”) censored this Doonesbury cartoon about Palin.

More:
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2011/09/12/censored-doonesbury-new-book-explodes-myth-of-sarah-palin-not-reading/

[MineralMan]

3. In my old home town in California, the local paper there

moved Doonesbury to the Editorial page for a long time. They didn't kill the strip, but they moved it. I actually liked the move. It was easier to find.

[slackmaster]

5. I live in San Diego. I don't know whether that was your home or not, but the Union-Tribune did that

For a long time back in the '80s and '90s IIRC. It's been on the regular comics page for several years now.

[MineralMan]

7. No, it was the San Luis Obispo paper.

I'm a small town guy. It's funny that I live in a big city now. I kinda like it.

[slackmaster]

9. The San Diego U-T put it on the editorial page, and gave it a heading of "Commentary"

:rofl:

BTW I like SLO. Nice town.

[MineralMan]

11. Yes, it's a great small city. But, the move to Minnesota was

necessary, and I like it here in Saint Paul, too. I'm not really a place person.

[Hayabusa]

33. My local paper doesn't have Doonesbury

the other one does, though. But it did move the non-Sunday Non Sequitors to either in or around the editorial section.

[slackmaster]

4. Unrec for lack of clarity. I have no idea what this thread is about. Doonesbury appears as usual...

...today in my local generally conservative newspaper, the San Diego Union-Tribune. It was there yesterday, and every day going back for many months. I read it every day.

Who is claiming the strip is censored, and where?

[n2doc]

10. see

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1937022

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1935877

[Goblinmonger]

14. I was a little snarkier than you

:toast:

[slackmaster]

17. You have a very strange idea about what constitutes censorship.

:dunce:

[Goblinmonger]

20. I made no comment about if I think it is censorship.

I showed the person how to find out what was being talked about.

And it is censorship. It's not illegal. It's not covered by the 1st amendment because it isn't the government doing the censoring, but a media outlet can censor.

[slackmaster]

22. Media outlets edit. Only governments can censor.

:argh:

[Goblinmonger]

27. False. n/t

[Goblinmonger]

13. Well

Check this

[slackmaster]

15. If the comic is actually censored, why am I able to go to the strip's home Web site and view it?

:crazy:

[Goblinmonger]

18. Did you actually read anything in the google search.

Each newspaper gets to decide if they run the cartoon. Major newspapers are not running it.

:silly:

[slackmaster]

19. That's not censorship.

With censorship, you don't get a choice.

HTH

[Goblinmonger]

21. Find me a definition of censorship that excludes media outlets

Because Wikipedia and http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/censorship">Dictionary.com disagree with you.

HTH

[slackmaster]

23. LOL! Dictionary.com defines censorship as something done by a censor.

Read their definition of censor.

Hint: The first two words of the primary definition are "An official..."

ETA of course the verb to censor can be a synonym of to Bowdlerize, but obviously that's not what we're discussing here.

[Goblinmonger]

25. Yes. And a newspaper can have a person in that office.

Got a definition that actually excludes media?

[slackmaster]

29. Obviously the core assumption in this discussion is that the papers chose not to run the strips...

...for political reasons.

That's not supported by any evidence I've seen yet.

[Goblinmonger]

31. Nice backpedal. And that's never what I said.

It has been censored by the newspapers. That's for sure. Whether it is the language or the political content probably differs by newspaper.

[uppityperson]

24. you unrec rather than asking to clarify? Huh. nt

[Jester Messiah]

6. I hadn't been aware that it was being censored lately.

I read the strip directly from the Doonesbury website, so I wouldn't have noticed if not for this thread. Just another reason why broadsheets are a dying breed, I guess!

[n2doc]

12. several major newspapers aren't carrying it this week

see

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1937022

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1935877

[slackmaster]

16. That is their prerogative. Freedom of the press and speech includes freedom not to publish or speak.

If you can read the strip online for free, IT IS NOT BEING CENSORED!

:crazy:

[uppityperson]

26. If you can find something online, it isn't being censored? Seriously? then there is no such thing

as censorship of anything since anything can be found online. According to your definition. Something might be censored in some country but no! Look! It is found online somewhere so it can't be censored!

Right?

So there is no censorship. Of anything.

[slackmaster]

30. It's clearly not being censored by the government. Please show proof that the papers that chose...

...not to run the strips have done so for political reasons, and not something else entirely like fear of being sued for copyright infringement.

[Goblinmonger]

32. You have a regular strawman factory going, don't you.

When has ANYONE ever said that?

[uppityperson]

35. Difficult to prove a negative. And who said anything like that for me to prove?

[Jester Messiah]

34. Can't say I'm surprised, Doonesbury has a proud history of alarming the censors.

Still, like I said: you can see why newspapers are a dying breed. Why should I accept their dictates as to what should or shouldn't be seen?

[madamesilverspurs]

8. Gaaahhhh.

Our local paper removed the strip in the '80s. The reason given by the editors was (and I'm paraphrasing from memory) that members of this community weren't politically sophisticated enough to comprehend Trudeau's intent.

[Octafish]

28. BFEE members have HATED Trudeau for a long time...

Cover of "Lies Of Our Times," 1992, by Gary Trudeau



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