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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 09:16 AM
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Is the Democratic Party Enabling Tea Baggers?
Not since civil war has there been an urgent need for resolute and determined leadership in the face of a threat determined to destroy the United States. I'm not talking about a few thousand impoverished terrorists on the other side of the world in Afghanistan. I'm talking about a few thousand millionaires and billionaires living in the United States destroying the nation from the inside with their Tea Bagger army of ignorant malcontents.

Where is the strong, unequivocal Democratic Party response? Where is the leadership against this foe? Are you telling me the best that Democrats can do is echo back Chamber of Commerce talking points as a "jobs" program?

The only possible reason for the lack of any serious response is that the Democratic Party, like the Republican Party, agrees with the central politics surrounding the Tea Party. Democratic leadership, it seems, only disagrees with the Tea Party at the edges. For just one example, both parties agree social security and medicare are on table, even as multitude of impoverished is greater than ever, while rich commit criminal fraud and get richer and richer without consequences (except to the non-rich who bail them out).

This is the best democrats can do to seize the initiative? I believe the Democratic Party is enabling the Tea Party with their silence and appeasement.

Sensible centrists and other right wingers will try to convince us that this is reality and just pragmatic politics, we need to shut up, president has no power, 60 votes, republican controlled house, BP is best qualified to design policy on oil spills, GE is best qualified to design policy on jobs programs, Bill Gates is best to design policy education, Monsanto is best to design policy on farming, PhRMA is best to design policy on health care, blah, blah, blah. How absolutely fucking sensible. And pathetic.

It's like Herbert Hoover meets Neville Chamberlain. We have peace in our time on Wall Street.

Everyone else is being bled to death.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 09:16 AM
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1. Great post.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 09:19 AM
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2. The Centrist "Democrats" and their pro-corporate
agenda have managed to lose, literally, ARMIES of supporters. IF they would turn back to FDR Democrats the question of re-election wouldn't even be on the table.
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 09:48 AM
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6. You can say that again.....
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 11:17 PM
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15. they have SQUANDERED so many opportunities
and yet they STILL have supporters on DU :thumbsdown:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 09:20 AM
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 09:20 AM
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4. too much of the 'leadership' is made up of Laissez Faire liberals. nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 09:30 AM
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5. Hmmm?
"Are you telling me the best that Democrats can do is echo back Chamber of Commerce talking points as a "jobs" program?"

Yeah, this" sound just like "Chamber of Commerce talking points," and likely the reason Krugman, the CPC and CBC and others support it.

"Not since civil war has there been an urgent need for resolute and determined leadership in the face of a threat determined to destroy the United States."

Was the Civil War before the Great Depression?

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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 09:51 AM
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7. Krugman just likes it because he's a "free trade" ideologue. nt
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 02:57 PM
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11. Someone has to say it
Thank you.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 10:05 AM
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8. We needed FDR.. we got..... Rope-A-Dope
Obama has failed by not using his bully pulpit to explain basic finances to the low informaiton voters.

He has let the Teabaggers fill in the blanks with their tallking points.. pure disaster.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 10:38 AM
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9. When the Centrists took over the Democratic Party, the Strong
Unequivocal voice of the Democratic Party was silenced.

No, I do not believe the Centrists have some evil intentions
and deliberately hurt the Democratic Party.

Their intentions were good, I believe. It is my observation
they saw Reagan monopolizing Business Interests. (Reagan was
giving Business great powers with his policies). Me thinks
Centrists believed they had to cut into this relationship
and garner support from some of the "rich" in order to maintain
some standing.

Their intentions were good. However, they have made one
big mistake IMO. Instead of holding the Center.(the space
between the two parties and preventing the right from going
off the right hand cliff, the Centrist followed along and
permitted themselves to operate in the GOP Field. Automatically,
this puts the Centrists at a disadvatage. The Republicans
are always playing on their own "home turf".

In an effort to woo the rich and upper end voters, the
Centrists have slowly over the years put the working class
and poor at the bottom of their priority list.
In other words whether they intended to or not the Centrists
have become moderate Republicans, looking out for
Business and Upper Income Earners and giving the left overs
to the working class and poor.

In conclusion, they did not fight back hard enough early
on and now Business and Wall ST run the country.

Why did Obama put entitlements on the table. Wall ST and
Business are getting purple demanding it. The Strong Unequivocal
Voice of the Democratic Party is being expressed by Activists
and Blogs, not our elected officials.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 11:11 PM
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14. Thank you for your reply, I generally agree with your analysis. dem party is in moral hazard...
dems picked up the Reagan revolution by championing the rich at the expense of the poor. They found this strategy effective at building cash reserves, but as a governing principal, it is literally turn American politics into some corrupt 3rd world despotic game of follow the money.

Democratic leadership can profit by working for the rich. They don't profit as much working for the non-rich. In the end, it's that simple, really. It's all about personal gain at the expense of others.

I think the dem party is now out of phase 180 degrees. Having spent years building internal support for the neo-lib/neo-con policies of Reagan, they have finally arrived at the raging wild fire burning down the government, with a tanker full of gasoline. It all started as a spark with Reagan.

They'll spend another 30 years trying to retool, by that time they'll be out of phase again.






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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 02:55 PM
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10. They are spending their time ripping up President Obama when they should
be ripping up the tea party.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 10:29 PM
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12. I claim Obama is deliberaltely pissing off liberals and enabling the tea party, in fact
everything I have come to expect from the centrists and right wingers who are controlling the democratic party has come to pass.

We have more slaughter of US soldiers and innocent civilians, we are running up huge debt to our idiotic wars.

Costs for food, education, health care, etc are going out of control.

Wall Street CEOs are enjoying biggest pay in history.

Non-executive staff are seeing their wages have barely moved in 10 years or more.

But perhaps where I think centrists are doing the most damage to the people who work hard for a living, is out sourcing to unregulated slave labor markets in Asia.

Obama responds to right wing because the right wing pressures him. He moves in the direction he is pressured. Centrists and democratic leadership is pressing him to move right

Centrists such as yourself do nothing but attack anyone who is rightfully pissed at Obama. Therefore the left is shut out of politics and has no representation.

By telling me to shut the fuck up, you are doing everything that Rick Perry wants, continuing to piss off formerly loyal democrats so that they stay home and don't vote.

So by telling me to shut the fuck up, you are enabling the tea baggers. Just like I said.

Millions of liberals have no representation in the democratic party. That's exactly what the right wingers in both parties want.

I am watching innovation and jobs die in this country because of people like Bill Gates and Immelt.

When Obama starts bringing charts and slides to show how wealth distribution is crippling us, rather than preaching even more outsourcing by way of more trade agreements, then we will see economy turn around. Not a minute before then.

Centrist right wingers have had enough time and control to improve the nation. They are just making things worse.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 10:34 PM
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13. Rec
No comment.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-11 11:24 PM
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16. agreed
and recced
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-11 01:31 AM
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17. Wow, Enable? There is no word how we are helping them.
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